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    I’m 28 and have no idea what a slide deck is. Is that somehow the new term for a PowerPoint presentation?

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      Ironically, it’s a very old term for a powerpoint presentation. Presentations used to be done with actual photographic slides in a projector. They were stored in a deck of slides.

      I only know this from Mad Men.

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      Hijacking this because you’re top comment and everyone is talking about the origin of the term (the thing you load into a projector back in the days of physical slides), but no one’s answering the actual question as intended:

      “Slide Deck” is the term used for the series of slides shown during a presentation, but “Presentation” refers to the whole performance, including non-slide elements like speeches and demos

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        Someday, my friends, presentations made and saved in Markdown will be king, and we can forget about opening slow programs to edit them.


        Yes, somehow the world will be a better place when everything is a plaintext document. At least that’s how I imagine it.


        Incidentally, there was a cool python program for presenting pdfs I used years ago. I wonder if it or similar are still in vogue somewhere.

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          I do all my presentations in markdown. Maintain them in git.

          Share the web page to share the presentation.

          PowerPoint sucks. So slow to make a presentation. So slow to change for a different audience.

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      I wouldn’t say I hear literally ‘slide deck’ that often, but some variation of ‘slides’ is very common. Basically no one says PowerPoint. Especially relevant as use of Microsoft products is not a given in work anymore, and people are aware of alternatives that require a general term. Ever heard someone say that they saw something ‘on social’?

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        PowerPoint literally was a slide show. It even uses the noun “slide” to describe one page of your information.

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      Perhaps it’s geography which is missing from this conversation.

      SF Bay Area techies will say slide deck all the time.

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      A slide deck is the analogue version of a PowerPoint.

      The deck is the rotating ring that you drop your slides into, then project them on the wall with what is essentially just an overhead projector designed to take small vertical slides of film loaded into the deck, instead of just using transparent sheets.

      You’d design all your little film slides, arrange them in order in the deck (think, deck of cards). The deck is what let you automatically swap between slides by pressing the remote to rotate the deck and reveal the next slide to the projector lens.

      I’m 32 but my school was broke as fuck so we were still using overheads and slide decks in 2005.

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          Oh man I’ve not seen one of these since I was a kid. I can literally hear this photo.

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        I’m 50 and grew up with slide presentations and I’ve never used the term slide deck. Maybe I’ve heard it? but it doesn’t really hit home at all.

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          I’m a little younger, and still remember slides and transparencies and all that, and I’ve heard “slide deck” a bunch in recent years, AND it still sounds so alien and wrong to me!

          I think calling each page a “slide” sounds better somehow, like “hey Bob can you send me that powerpoint slide with the pie chart?”

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            Yeah I use the word slide that way. I’m rejecting slide deck as a term. We have to remember veto power when it comes to language.

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        The deck is the rotating ring that you drop your slides into,

        It’s always been called a carousel. A deck is the deck of slides like a deck of cards.

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          Thank you! As I was typing it I knew I didn’t have the right term for the ring bit.

          I’m going to ignore the fact I could have easily looked it up to fact check myself before posting, and instead use my age as an excuse.

          I was just old enough to remember my teachers using them, but the tech was already outdated so it’s not like anyone ever taught me about that type of projector, I only ever observed it.

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        Me too. That is interesting that other people don’t? Slide deck… hear it all the time in IT.

        Of course also being in IT I wonder why the fuck they are not html presentations stored in git using some kind of simple markdown instead of powerpoint, but i digress.

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          The key is to use some apple exclusive product. Oh and then stickers on your laptop when you go to conferences.

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        do you regularly present a series of text and images in sequential segments to meetings for the purpose of conducting business processes, though? If so what do you call the series of text and images you’re presenting?

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    As opposed to being like, 60 instead? Cuz that’s the demographic I’d think of as using the term “slide deck”.

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      I’m a 32 year old teacher and I want an overhead projector.

      A dry erase transparency is much easier to write on than the white board. My macro handwriting is awful, students can barely read what I write on the board. So I always end up writing on a peice of paper on my desk, and I have my phone on a tripod so I can get a “top down shot” of me writing on the paper, then I screen cast that to the smart board.

      It works, I can write legibly by writing in a normal size, and then enlarge it for the class to read fairly quickly… Once all the cameras and casting is set up.

      But it would be so much easier to just have an overhead projector, a few transparencies and a dry erase marker. Roll it out, plug it in, aim and focus the lens, then I’m done. Plus then if the internet goes out I could still use the board!

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        I bet it would be every bit as good as you think. I had a math teacher back in middle school ~30 years ago who taught EVERY lesson by talking as he wrote things on a transparency on the overhead projector.

        We have great tech for that stuff now, but the projector and markers feels very human-compatible in an analog way. Kind of like reading a book I guess.

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          I still find it funny how some technological ‘upgrades’ just don’t do things as well as older tech. In university I had a touch screen laptop with a pen - the finger touch wasn’t as good as now (pressure I think, rather than capacitative, and none of the fancy tricks like two finger) but the pen just worked great for me for writing. When touch screens became fashion for laptops for a while that sounded great… but they couldn’t at all do the job I lost in my stylus-input Toshiba. And, as a Toshiba, it was decent generally as a not too expensive laptop.

          I was lucky that about the time I got it, Linux support was coming out for Wacom tablets. (Which is what was integrated in the screen, I guess.) Incidentally, Xournal turned out way better than any of the programs I had on Windows for writing/drawing and for annotating PDFs. Including Microsoft Office’s “One-somethingorother” (I forget the name now.) The Office one was so unexpectedly clunky, and also less powerful. Ah, shame I don’t have much use for Xournal these days with no pen input screen. …Oh, except every time I have to fill in a pdf form, if it’s not set up or not set up right. Xournal is more clunky for that task than I’d hope from a pdf annotator, but it just works when other things don’t.

          … Sorry, nostalgic rant over.

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        The problem is that from experience I find that they heat the room to 12,000° and they have an internal fan that goes werrrrrrrrrrr all lesson.

        I suppose a better modern equivalent would be to just have a drawing tablet plugged into the computer. Also that way you can actually save the results rather than having random pieces of paper that might get lost.

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          The whole reason you had those problems was due to shitty incandescent or halogen lights inside of the projector. You swap that out with modern high power LEDs and your complains basically disappear.

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        What you need is called an ELMO, does basically what You’re doing with your phone but would allow you to avoid using your personal phone for work use, not a criticism just not something I like doing myself

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          I have no option but to use a personal phone for work. It’s required for MFA to log into everything from my email to the business bank account so we can authorise payroll. But also we haven’t had reliable phone line in our office since before I started working there 3 years ago. So I make work calls from my mobile all the time. No idea why the phones are so shit, we’ve gone through 3 Telecoms, 8 handsets and spent 18 months coordinating with the department of housing (who own our building) to let the government NBN technicians access the property, run fibre to premises and run maintenance. Nothing has worked. We have no problems with loosing internet access, but for some reason the phones will just randomly go down every 20 minutes, with downtimes ranging from 20 minutes to 14 days, and none of the professionals I’m reaching out to for help have any idea why.

          And I know, I know, “you should demand access to a dedicated work phone”, true, but the budget at our organisation is tight. I’ve already had to reduce my classes from 3 hours to 2 hours this year because our department of education contact is less than last year (despite having more students packed in than ever before) and if I wanted to to get paid for my labour year I had to reduce my hours so the budget could stretch for the whole school year. I couldn’t just take a pay cut because union would be up my ass about being paid below award rate. We’re one of the few organisations who still have teachers on payroll (earning leave benefits and receiving employer super contributions) every other centre has moved to subcontracting teachers who operate as sole traders. This let’s the organisation cut costs and force teachers to buy their own whiteboard markers. We refuse to stoop that’s low at my organisation. I may not have a work phone but at least I don’t have to supply my own toilet paper like I did at my last job.

          It doesn’t bother me to have my phone used in the classroom. I teach seniors how to use their phones (I teach at a community centre). So I have a “dummy phone” that I use at work too, because if I’m doing a demo on how to do something on a phone, I need a phone to do the demo on.

          This is a separate phone from my main device. I use my main device as my Authenticator phone. I’m not going to use the training phone for that, as that phone has purposefully been compromised to better resemble the problems my students experience with their phones so I can show them how to fix it.

          But setting up my personal phone as a camera or middle man in a weird chain of casting (for example, when I’m doing ipad lessons, I have no way of sharing the ipad screen to the cheap Android TV we have, so I set up a teams meeting between the ipad and my phone, share my ipad screen with the phone, and then cast my phone to the TV.

          Is there a better way to do that? Absolutely, 100%.

          Is there a better way to do that for free with the resources I already have available? Not that I have been able to find with my limited time available to research one.

          We are given no resources in community education, or the resources we are given are so outdated. We’re expected to to teach students how to use Microsoft 365 as part of the 2022 curriculum, but the department only gives us student licenses for Office 2010 because we’re Community Ed, we get the leftovers from Primary, Secondary, and Tertiary education. We apply for grants to get what we need, but that’s hours of our time that’s unpaid writing grants to try and get some money in our budget. (if we get the grant, we obviously back pay the grant writer, but if we don’t get the grant…)

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        Not to mention the fact that you can face your students while writing on an overhead projector instead of turning your back to write on the board.

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    “Slide deck” is an old person term, not a young person term.

    If anything calling it a slide deck makes you sound old.

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        It’s like calling your remote a “clicker”. A term that is still used but only by the old crowd.

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          Both “clicker” and “slide deck” made a resurgence, these are definitely not exclusively old terms.

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            Their origin is old is the point. They refer back to an old technology and no longer applies since todays remotes don’t click. I think a “resurgence” is going a bit far.

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            Everything is cyclical. My mum took the piss out of my baggy jeans in the early 00s cos they looked like 70s bell bottoms.

            Skinny jeans replaced them but hey ho - baggy jeans are coming back again!

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        For sure especially anything related to technological advancements.

        Slide deck refers to the old film projectors, which no one uses anymore except old people. So of course youngsters will have zero clue what a slide deck is. There is no use for this term anymore and it’s dying along with its technology.

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    Accidentally called it a power point and not an open document presentation (the n00bs in my class don’t know the difference between Keynote, PowerPoint and Impress)

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        I had to, because the school basically forced us to use iPads and not any other tablets or laptops. And those don’t have OpenOffice, and Apples apps are crap. So M$ Office it was. Now I can use my Laptop, and I felt dirty starting wine on it because it polluted my nice Arch (btw) home and cmd is so much worse than bash.

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      It’s only a true power point if it was grown in the Power Point region of North America. Otherwise it’s just a sparkling digital slide show.

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    Can everyone see my screen? Okay good. I put literal paragraphs of stuff into my presentation, and I’m going to read it all to you verbatim. This is much better than email.

    Now I can put presentation skills on my resume.

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      I’m the first person to say “this meeting should’ve been an email”, but often it’s because I’m slated as “required” on something I’d otherwise be a Cc on.

      The reason for those, though, is because people don’t read their emails. Especially not the long winded verbose ones that actually explain things.

      You want to tell people things, put it in an email. If you want them to understand it, call a meeting.

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      I had a week long training course, I read the slides the night before to make sure I would absorb the material well and have a decent shot at passing the test without much anxiety… MF spent a week reading the slides to me that I read the night before…

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    Okay, so are we among 80 year olds who still can’t computer, or are we among 20 year olds who either don’t use Microsoft Office or are trying to stop using Microsoft branding for the concept of presentations?

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      Honestly I don’t relate to this tweet. Around me at least, it’s the 30-40 year old millennials switching the terminology because some of them use Google Slides or KeyNote or a bunch of Figma screens.

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        I used to work with a lot of low level Executives and in every meeting they’d say something like “add some stats to the deck”, without fail my first thought was Magic the Gathering or Pokemon.

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        I’m 36, I haven’t used PowerPoint (or MS Office in general) in 10 years since I switched to Linux and thus LibreOffice, and honestly it wouldn’t hurt my feelings if we managed to shake loose of Microsoft’s grip on the productivity space. “Word Document” is another one I’d like to see die.

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      Overhead projectors don’t exist anymore, they’ve been replaced by video projectors mounted overhead.

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          The new SMART boards (which is a brand like Kleenex) is actually IFP (Interactive Flat Panel). I work on the sales side of the industry now, but I grew up with, and worked on those SMART boards as my district had them, but they’re technically an interactive board and projector.

          Also, if you didn’t know (and mannnnyyyy people in IT/Facilities don’t realize this for some unknown reason) there is major differences between TVs. Specifically consumer and enterprise/commercial grade TVs. Especially around LED/Backlight tested lifetime. Tons of education institutions have IT departments just buying off the shelf TVs. Which is horrifying for the network/unmanaged aspect alone…

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            It’s crazy what happened to them, and the market they could have locked down.

            They are headquarted in my city, was still kicking around until late last year iirc.

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              SMART still has a bit of market control (last I looked they made up like 10% of IFP market), but they basically cost a fortune to buy (beyond competition) and then they still have a subscription on top of that.

              I was a SysAdmin for K-12 so I pushed a lot of device agnostic stuff since I didn’t want more to manage. SMART was basically a major pain since users always wanted their old software installed. It was horrible, and it often required more than just app deployment through SCCM.

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                Officials with Alberta Education confirmed they finalized the purchase of the SMART Technologies building this month, but that the lease with Kids & Company had been terminated before then. “The purchase of the SMART Technologies building by the Government of Alberta was finalized in April 2023.

                They were on the university grounds, so I don’t know where their office is now.

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      Remember when the teacher would bring in those fancy transparencies that had sliding handles on part of the page to animate part of the projection?

      Those were the days lol

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    Huh. I guess I think of a “slide deck” as the (usually PDF) version that is sent to everyone in the meeting so they can refer to the slides before/after the presentation, and a “PowerPoint presentation” as the live presentation of those slides.

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        I’m 25 and same. In high school (circa 2015-2016). In a developed country. Now that I think about it they probably had trouble sourcing the specialty incandescent lightbulbs to keep the damn things running (those had been banned from sale for years in the EU). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

        Many teachers just had really old slides they clung onto (or coursework in general… I vividly remember a geography class with grainy photocopies of maps with the Iron Curtain still on it, over 20 years after the fall of the Wall). But even if the teachers did want to show a video or sth, there were like 3 projectors for the whole school at the beginning, then it slowly improved to the point that most (but not all) of the classrooms had a projector. Some got lucky and it was overhead, and some even luckier with an overhead projector and a proper fold-out screen (other times we had to decipher a powerpoint slide against a dark green chalkboard…).
        Must have been around 2014 that we last used the bulky CRT-on-wheels.

        Part of the problem is each of those handful of awful “smart” boards we got that nobody asked for probably cost as much as 10-20 projectors and the school threw all its money into that. I’d be curious to know whether it was due to corruption, or non-relocatable funds, or just really good smartboard salespeople.