"That would be dependent on the situation," he said.
    • kiranraine
      42·
      9 months ago

      Its been there awhile with these people…I wish I was kidding but they believe Mexico and other countries that way are so evil this is reasonable. Their stereotypes just seem to get more and more crazy that they believe…

      • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        30·
        9 months ago

        Many conservatives think that Mexico is a problem the same way they think that Native American tribes self governance is a problem. The Mexican history is that of the native Mexicans winning out over the Spanish and forming their country and many conservatives are still pissed about the Alamo because they think we should have kept going south in conquest.

        • kiranraine
          8·
          9 months ago

          Yea which is why I wish it was easier to take them down when they threaten violence to send us into a war. Since I know I can’t get things done to show I’m not capable myself for that or a lot of things(the audhd panics and meltdowns are oof with his stressed I stay…). Like the fact they won’t believe they’re in the minority sucks 😕

            • spider@lemmy.nz
              3·
              9 months ago

              Also, many undocumented immigrants who would normally be involved in post-storm cleanup and rebuilding are avoiding Florida after Hurricane Idalia because of DeSantis’ policies.

            • kiranraine
              2·
              9 months ago

              Tell me about it…the right is so xenophobic among other things that they can’t see the bigger picture. They’d rather let these mega corps in our own country rule and ruin things than cooperate with other countries 🙄

              I will never understand this shiz

    • cbarrick@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      9 months ago

      Real patriots want to declare war on Mexico then you’re not a real patriot. We need more patriots in this country to make America great again. And we’ll make them pay for it! Mark my words Mexico will pay for the wall. Some of them are good people too but they will pay for the wall when we win the war. SAD but TRUE.

      /s

    • Madison420@lemmy.world
      45·
      9 months ago

      He’s really not, his base is dumb and he plays to them rather effectively but he’s not dumb just manipulative and without morality.

      • Frog-Brawler@kbin.social
        41·
        9 months ago

        I disagree, he’s dumb and horrible with anything that has to do with economics too. Fascism is a terrible system.

      • Chalky_Pockets@lemm.eeEnglish
        20·
        9 months ago

        I agree that he manipulates his base.

        He’s a fucking idiot, that’s not negotiable. He does too many things that do not serve the manipulation of his base that are too dumb to excuse. The meatball has no brain.

    • kiranraine
      30·
      9 months ago

      Our systems are just so unbelievably broken. They gerrymander and destroy other systems to keep themselves in power and its just sick.

        • kiranraine
          6·
          9 months ago

          Seriously…it’s that whole “they came after this group and you said nothing” bc we ignored the red flags. People ignore the signs until it hits them and its too late despite those like me doing what we can(which isn’t much) to fight it…

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
      22·
      9 months ago

      They’re dumber because lots of them want Trump, but I wouldn’t say this makes Americans as a whole dumber because very few of them support DeSantis. He’s just throwing random shit out there like this at this point.

    • PeleSpirit@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      9 months ago

      Idk, I wouldn’t call the Russians dumb because they have a fascist leader, it happens to a lot of countries. We were dumb in thinking it couldn’t happen here.

    • Techmaster@lemm.ee
      4·
      9 months ago

      We’re on the verge of seeing a presidential candidate, during a debate, shove his hand down the back of his pants, pull out a handful of crap, and throw it at his opponent on live television…and still manage to win the election somehow.

    • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      9 months ago

      Fuck our actual shit world, I want the “makes sense” world.

      Those who are losing don’t think a pyric victory is all that bad. As the social war wins move more in one direction, I expect to see more bullshittery happen.

      The only thing we can do is fight for what’s right, and never stop doing that. Things will get better again, eventually. Or the dolphins and the cockroaches will look around at the charred landscape and wonder “WTF?”.

    • Heisme@lemmy.worldEnglish
      30·
      9 months ago

      Goal post moving for his base. DeSantis “had to” take federal disaster relief money for the damage to his state caused by Hurricane Idiala(?) making him weak in their eyes(or so he believes). So now to appeal to/appease his sycophants he must promise the possibility of pain, poverty and destruction for those less fortunate.

  • paddirn@lemmy.worldEnglish
    39·
    9 months ago

    I’m sorry, why the fuck are these people allowed to be in politics? He’s openly advocating for war with our neighbor, get this fuckwad out of politics. Let him go fight a war first-hand if he’s so eager to get his dumbass killed. I feel like a requirement for getting into politics should be some sort of political “killswitch”, as soon as you start talking crazy like this, you’re out.

    • Chocrates@lemmy.world
      6·
      9 months ago

      Nearly all of my friends are Mexican citizens that moved to the States for work or folks that have family in Mexico. Why the fuck does DeSantis think like this? Hell even the conservative Latinos in the border states couldn’t support this nonsense right?

  • Uniquitous@lemmy.oneEnglish
    33·
    9 months ago

    That’s… that’s just great Ron. Hey, ya figure they might shoot back? With their army and navy that they definitely have? Dumb motherfucker.

    • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
      3·
      9 months ago

      What, are you just leaving out the enormous costs of the Vietnam, Korean and Cold Wars? The Gulf War?

      America has hugely benefited from warfare.

      • massacre@lemmy.worldEnglish
        17·
        9 months ago

        Missing the point on purpose there to fit your agenda? OP is CLEARLY talking about nextdoor neighbors. When Vietnam moves continents, you let us know…

        Quick edit - I upvoted your comment on JAG at Gitmo and DeSantis being a black hole for ethics, so I"m genuinely wondering why you’re making the point about the Us and Wars.

  • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
    24·
    9 months ago

    It’s funky to imagine that a state that was once seen as “purple”, generally, would also elect someone was ragingly insane as DeSandurz.

    • ramble81@lemm.ee
      25·
      9 months ago

      You can thank gerrymandering and low voter turn out due to gerrymandering for that…

      • PeleSpirit@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        9 months ago

        Also, so many old people too along with conservative organizations like Scientology and Disney.

      • BB69@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        How does gerrymandering play in to DeSantis election? Isn’t it popularity voting that decides Florida’s governor?

        • ramble81@lemm.ee
          4·
          9 months ago

          Gerrymandering leads to disenfranchisement, which leads to lower voter turnout by the opposition, which then leads to his election. You see a similar thing happen in Texas as well because people think “oh my vote doesn’t matter, why should i vote anyway?”

    • kiranraine
      9·
      9 months ago

      Tbf he’s done a lot to disenfranchise those he doesn’t agree with or make it harder for them to vote. All bc that side can’t believe they’re not popular anymore…

  • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
    18·
    9 months ago

    This is the guy who was the JAG at Gitmo during the torture debacle, right? Just checking.

    He is the antithesis of ethics.

  • kitonthenet@kbin.social
    14·
    9 months ago

    But has the US ruled out using missiles on desantis

    Seriously though, look at the terror Ukraine has been able to accomplish inside Russia with a hell of a lot less than what Mexico has. You guys want missiles blowing shit up in San Antonio and phoenix?

    • Mirshe@lemmy.world
      6·
      9 months ago

      The cartels have been VERY careful keeping their violence on the Mexican side of the border, and not kidnapping Americans (usually), because there’s no better way to get yourself connected to God’s wifi. A war would basically throw all that out the window. The border towns like San Antonio would erupt with the same sort of cartel violence you see already in Mexico. Families of soldiers in those areas would find themselves turning into targets.