Rapidcreek to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 10 months agoNearly five decades after the fall of Saigon, U.S. will help Vietnam boost its military capabilitieswww.cnbc.comexternal-linkmessage-square57fedilinkarrow-up1155cross-posted to: news@lemmy.world
arrow-up1155external-linkNearly five decades after the fall of Saigon, U.S. will help Vietnam boost its military capabilitieswww.cnbc.comRapidcreek to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 10 months agomessage-square57fedilinkcross-posted to: news@lemmy.world
minus-squareFfaerieOxide@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up1·10 months agoDid their military try to win? Did they? That sounds like their military was defeated.
minus-squareRapidcreekOPlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·10 months agoNot on the battlefield as I’ve said. Politics ended the war, not the Vietnamese. It’s not a hard to understand concept.
minus-squareFfaerieOxide@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up1·10 months agoHow is killing enough of a side that that side doesn’t want to fight anymore not winning? You are really wound up in wanting to call losing something other than what it was—losing.
minus-squareRapidcreekOPlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·10 months agoTalk about being wound up…I said yes they won but not on the battlefield. What part of that don’t you understand?
minus-squareFfaerieOxide@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up1·10 months agoHow was it not on the battlefield? Vietnam shot Americans. America didn’t like being shot. America pulled out. Does it have to be a football game with refs for you to count it as a legitimate win? What point are you even trying to make, “If it wasn’t for those pussies in Washington America would have won!”? The US lost the will to prosecute the war due to unacceptable losses Did that not happen in battle?
minus-squareRapidcreekOPlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·10 months ago Did that not happen in battle? No. It happened in the US. What point are you even trying to make, “If it wasn’t for those pussies in Washington America would have won!”? No. I’m trying to clarify historical facts. Does it have to be a football game with refs for you to count it as a legitimate win? I said they won several times. You’re getting tiring
minus-squareFfaerieOxide@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up1·edit-210 months ago No. It happened in the US. Except for Kent State where they killed their own people, what Vietnam deaths happened in The US? If killing the enemy on the battlefield causes your enemy to lose the will to fight, in what world is that not defeating an opponent militarily?
minus-squareRapidcreekOPlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·10 months agoHas nothing to do with stacking bodies… The Vietnam war ended because the people of the US forced it to end, not for anything the Vietnamese did. People demonstrating constantly forced politicians to end the war.
minus-squareFfaerieOxide@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up1·10 months agoYou really don’t want to hand Vietnam the win, huh? WHO inflicted those “unacceptable losses” that caused the American public to want to pull out? What difference does it make how a losing army loses a war if that losing army lost?
Did their military try to win?
Did they?
That sounds like their military was defeated.
Not on the battlefield as I’ve said. Politics ended the war, not the Vietnamese. It’s not a hard to understand concept.
How is killing enough of a side that that side doesn’t want to fight anymore not winning?
You are really wound up in wanting to call losing something other than what it was—losing.
Talk about being wound up…I said yes they won but not on the battlefield. What part of that don’t you understand?
How was it not on the battlefield?
Vietnam shot Americans.
America didn’t like being shot.
America pulled out.
Does it have to be a football game with refs for you to count it as a legitimate win?
What point are you even trying to make, “If it wasn’t for those pussies in Washington America would have won!”?
Did that not happen in battle?
No. It happened in the US.
No. I’m trying to clarify historical facts.
I said they won several times. You’re getting tiring
Except for Kent State where they killed their own people, what Vietnam deaths happened in The US?
If killing the enemy on the battlefield causes your enemy to lose the will to fight, in what world is that not defeating an opponent militarily?
Has nothing to do with stacking bodies…
The Vietnam war ended because the people of the US forced it to end, not for anything the Vietnamese did. People demonstrating constantly forced politicians to end the war.
You really don’t want to hand Vietnam the win, huh?
WHO inflicted those “unacceptable losses” that caused the American public to want to pull out?
What difference does it make how a losing army loses a war if that losing army lost?