The Vietnam war ended because the people of the US forced it to end, not for anything the Vietnamese did. People demonstrating constantly forced politicians to end the war.
Who mentioned a great Satan?
I just said getting shot so bad you quit counts as “losing on the battlefield”.
No matter how you want to rationalize away at “America never lost a war”, they did.
How is killing enough of a side that that side doesn’t want to fight anymore not winning?
You are really wound up in wanting to call losing something other than what it was—losing.
Talk about being wound up…I said yes they won but not on the battlefield. What part of that don’t you understand?
How was it not on the battlefield?
Vietnam shot Americans.
America didn’t like being shot.
America pulled out.
Does it have to be a football game with refs for you to count it as a legitimate win?
What point are you even trying to make, “If it wasn’t for those pussies in Washington America would have won!”?
Did that not happen in battle?
No. It happened in the US.
No. I’m trying to clarify historical facts.
I said they won several times. You’re getting tiring
Except for Kent State where they killed their own people, what Vietnam deaths happened in The US?
If killing the enemy on the battlefield causes your enemy to lose the will to fight, in what world is that not defeating an opponent militarily?
Has nothing to do with stacking bodies…
The Vietnam war ended because the people of the US forced it to end, not for anything the Vietnamese did. People demonstrating constantly forced politicians to end the war.
You really don’t want to hand Vietnam the win, huh?
WHO inflicted those “unacceptable losses” that caused the American public to want to pull out?
What difference does it make how a losing army loses a war if that losing army lost?
I lived the time. If you have to feel like an Afghan taxi driver, that you defeated the great satan,have at it. Because reality doesn’t matter to you.
What are you even talking about?
Who mentioned a great Satan?
I just said getting shot so bad you quit counts as “losing on the battlefield”.
No matter how you want to rationalize away at “America never lost a war”, they did.
They were defeated.
It happens.