Yes, but Vietnam won no battle I know of. The US lost the will to prosecute the war due to unacceptable losses and loss of support by the US population. I kind of doubt they won militarily over China either. Don’t know about France.
Correct. But with one exception and one addition. To call them farmers would be belittling them. They weren’t. Add the fact that conscription by the US was last used in this war.
Yes, but Vietnam won no battle I know of. The US lost the will to prosecute the war due to unacceptable losses and loss of support by the US population. I kind of doubt they won militarily over China either. Don’t know about France.
The US failed to achieve all of its strategic objectives in the war while Vietnam achieved all of theirs.
The US lost the war.
As I’ve indicated many times. I agree.
Sounds like we sent soldiers over to die in a foreign nation over no real basis to do so and got our soldiers asses handed to them by farmers
Correct. But with one exception and one addition. To call them farmers would be belittling them. They weren’t. Add the fact that conscription by the US was last used in this war.
They pointed guns at people they wanted to leave, who then left.
Sounds like they won to me.
The US sued for peace for the reasons I’ve given.
Who cares why The US lost, they lost.
Vietnam won.
Yes, but not on the battlefield.
What the hell distinction is that?
They started shit, got hit, then left.
They lost.
The distinction is the US wasn’t defeated militarily as the OP said.
Did their military try to win?
Did they?
That sounds like their military was defeated.
Not on the battlefield as I’ve said. Politics ended the war, not the Vietnamese. It’s not a hard to understand concept.