Not sure I believe “historic levels”. See Pre-WWII America and the American Nazi Party as example. Highly recommend Rachel Maddow’s book Prequel for details of how close America came to an alliance with Nazi Germany.
Based on what I can tell antizionism might be reaching “historic levels” though. They arrested hundreds of activists from Jewish Voice for Peace out of the thousands that showed up to protest just a day or two ago. 20.000 people protested for Palestine in SF. The streets were filled in NY, Chicago, Washington, etc. I don’t know if there’s ever been this much pushback against the occupation in the US, so I’d be willing to believe antizionism might be reaching historic levels. Maybe the dude conveniently got his words mixed up.
I think we’re seeing people getting pissed about innocent people dying everywhere, and leaders are tripping over themselves justifying it for those they’re allied with.
What does Israel have that requires the western countries to look the other way at this shit when they’re appearing to stand up against it elsewhere.
I don’t think the West is standing up against it anywhere, it’s just a convenient political rally cry for whatever agenda you have and people will continue to die.
And it’s actually worse than that. The evangelicals think that there are two conditions that need to be met before Jesus returns.
The first is that Israel is run by Jews. Check.
The second is that Israel suffers a huge attack. I’d say check, but apparently none have been “Jesus returns” big.
But that second part is important. What would happen if some diplomatic genius achieved Middle East peace tomorrow. Somehow, this guy did the diplomacy version of waving a magic wand and now everyone in the region is hugging each other. Great, right?
Well, not for evangelicals. Peace in the Middle East means the chances of an attack on Israel plummet. Certainly any “Jesus returns” level attack.
So the evangelicals NEED the conflict to rage on. They are major contributors to the settlers - who illegally take over Palestinian land because their reading of the Torah says it should be Jewish land. (It doesn’t say that, but people will often decide a religious text says what they want it to say.) The evangelicals also help support the right wing politicians in Israel.
In short, evangelicals are basically taking an existing raging fire, tossing kindling on top of it, and then pouring a few gallons of gasoline on top of that.
Oh, and one final note about “Jesus returning.” They believe that, after Jesus returns, he’ll take them to heaven and toss everyone else - especially all the Jews - into hell. So their “support for Israel” is just delayed anti-semitism (as well as immediate Islamophobia).
The highest level in decades is still historic without invalidating a prior, higher peak. If anything, it should be a reminder of how bad we were previously so we don’t go all in like we did back then.
Yep. Besides: I’d bet a fiver that this guy counted anybody who criticized Israel as anti semitic. Which is not how this works goddamnit. Or Jehovah damn it? Idk.
Not sure I believe “historic levels”. See Pre-WWII America and the American Nazi Party as example. Highly recommend Rachel Maddow’s book Prequel for details of how close America came to an alliance with Nazi Germany.
Based on what I can tell antizionism might be reaching “historic levels” though. They arrested hundreds of activists from Jewish Voice for Peace out of the thousands that showed up to protest just a day or two ago. 20.000 people protested for Palestine in SF. The streets were filled in NY, Chicago, Washington, etc. I don’t know if there’s ever been this much pushback against the occupation in the US, so I’d be willing to believe antizionism might be reaching historic levels. Maybe the dude conveniently got his words mixed up.
I think we’re seeing people getting pissed about innocent people dying everywhere, and leaders are tripping over themselves justifying it for those they’re allied with.
What does Israel have that requires the western countries to look the other way at this shit when they’re appearing to stand up against it elsewhere.
I don’t think the West is standing up against it anywhere, it’s just a convenient political rally cry for whatever agenda you have and people will continue to die.
Israel has to exist so “Christians” can get “Raptured” during the “End Times.”
That’s it. That’s literally the actual reason the GOP supports Israel.
And it’s actually worse than that. The evangelicals think that there are two conditions that need to be met before Jesus returns.
The first is that Israel is run by Jews. Check.
The second is that Israel suffers a huge attack. I’d say check, but apparently none have been “Jesus returns” big.
But that second part is important. What would happen if some diplomatic genius achieved Middle East peace tomorrow. Somehow, this guy did the diplomacy version of waving a magic wand and now everyone in the region is hugging each other. Great, right?
Well, not for evangelicals. Peace in the Middle East means the chances of an attack on Israel plummet. Certainly any “Jesus returns” level attack.
So the evangelicals NEED the conflict to rage on. They are major contributors to the settlers - who illegally take over Palestinian land because their reading of the Torah says it should be Jewish land. (It doesn’t say that, but people will often decide a religious text says what they want it to say.) The evangelicals also help support the right wing politicians in Israel.
In short, evangelicals are basically taking an existing raging fire, tossing kindling on top of it, and then pouring a few gallons of gasoline on top of that.
Oh, and one final note about “Jesus returning.” They believe that, after Jesus returns, he’ll take them to heaven and toss everyone else - especially all the Jews - into hell. So their “support for Israel” is just delayed anti-semitism (as well as immediate Islamophobia).
Got any sources on that one?
Very easy to find on Google. Search for “evangelical support for Israel” or similar.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/30/us-evangelical-christians-israel-hamas-war
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/05/14/half-of-evangelicals-support-israel-because-they-believe-it-is-important-for-fulfilling-end-times-prophecy/
The Bible. /s
The highest level in decades is still historic without invalidating a prior, higher peak. If anything, it should be a reminder of how bad we were previously so we don’t go all in like we did back then.
What’s all this “we” shit? My people were Quakers.
I love your oatmeal 🥣
Yep. Besides: I’d bet a fiver that this guy counted anybody who criticized Israel as anti semitic. Which is not how this works goddamnit. Or Jehovah damn it? Idk.
He just said “historic,” he didn’t say what part of history.
Historic does not mean most