• TraditionalMuslim
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    It ain’t a conspiracy if it’s happening in front of your own eyes. Any thoughts on the gay song about ‘coming for your children’? I’m sure you’re going to say it’s just tongue-and-cheek humor.

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      My answer to that song would be: We live in a multicultural world and if you don’t teach your kids to accept other peoples choices they say that they will.

      The more bigoted parents are, and the more parents say “Stay away from them!” the more teenagers are drawn to the LGBT community and will see that its their parents that’s wrong.

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        Not true. The more parents encourage their kids to support LGBT, the more confused kids will be. It’s not bigotry if you care about your kid’s wellbeing.

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          “Mummy, why are those two men holding hands?”

          “They’re in love, like me and daddy.”

          “Oh, right.”

          What’s confusing about that?

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            Are you assuming every couple is gay or something? Because that example makes no sense. A kid who has a mom and w dad will be confused why some other kid has 2 moms or 2 dads.

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              Can you read? This is a kid with hetero patents - “mummy and daddy” doesn’t sound gay to me… He sees two men together. And yet there is no confusion. It’s easily explained - they are in love.

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                Could’ve sworn I saw you mention daddy twice. But maybe I just misread.

                That doesn’t help the child understand. They would think that these types of relationships are ok. And how would you explain where the kids come from? Adoption? This would be two walks of life the child has to understand and think about which one is for them. So it does add to the confusion. Exposing this stuff early on is very dangerous, just like how you wouldn’t expose your kid to certain things until they are more mature to understand.

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                  That doesn’t help the child understand. They would think that these types of relationships are ok.

                  Sounds like they do understand, because these relationships are indeed ok.

                  how would you explain where the kids come from? Adoption?

                  Yes. Because that’s generally how it works.

                  This would be two walks of life the child has to understand and think about which one is for them.

                  That’s not how lifestyles or human thought works. You don’t live a certain way simply as an advertisement, as a suggestion for how others should live, with every action you do serving as instructions for others to emulate, as if you see yourself as some kind of god… right? That is so absurd.

                  Plus, seeing someone living differently isn’t a suggestion for you to live like that. That is absurd. I don’t see people on bikes and think, “are they telling me to ride a bike?”

                  Do you?

                  Also, being gay is not, as you imply, some lifestyle you choose. It’s like having brown hair or being genetically predisposed to taste Hershey’s chocolate as vomit.

                  Plus, no one would choose to subject themselves to a life of abuse from people like you.

                  So it does add to the confusion. Exposing this stuff early on is very dangerous, just like how you wouldn’t expose your kid to certain things until they are more mature to understand.

                  There is no confusion. Explain being gay takes one sentence as I already demonstrated (and you haven’t even attempted to refute). Adoption is just as easy. “Someone else made the baby, but these two are going to raise the baby and be their parents.”

                  Maybe you just suck at explaining things.

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                    That’s not how lifestyles or human thought works. You don’t live a certain way simply as an advertisement, as a suggestion for how others should live, with every action you do serving as instructions for others to emulate, as if you see yourself as some kind of god… right? That is so absurd.

                    That is in fact how human psychology works. Whatever you expose yourself to, if you expose it enough times, you start to think it’s normal.

                    Also saying I’m some kind of god is actually projection. I choose to live my lifestyle according to God, not because I feel like it, but because I know that God is All-Knowing and He knows what is best for humanity.

                    Plus, seeing someone living differently isn’t a suggestion for you to live like that. That is absurd. I don’t see people on bikes and think, “are they telling me to ride a bike?”

                    They are. Whatever lifestyle you choose to live by and present publicly is an advertisement saying this is the walk of life that is best and everyone should follow it. Why do you think brands like Apple, Louis Vuitton, Guchi are so successful? People buy it to show off to others saying they are rich. You and I might not think like that, but this is just human psychology. Whatever you see, you want to be. That is why you should be careful what you expose yourself to. Regardless of how much “willpower” you think you have.

                    Also, being gay is not, as you imply, some lifestyle you choose. It’s like having brown hair or being genetically predisposed to taste Hershey’s chocolate as vomit.

                    That is not entirely true. Being homosexual is not something you are born with. You can develop these attractions due to certain life experiences but you are not born with it. Scientifically speaking, there is no “Gay Gene” and that has been debunked.

                    There is no confusion. Explain being gay takes one sentence as I already demonstrated (and you haven’t even attempted to refute). Adoption is just as easy. “Someone else made the baby, but these two are going to raise the baby and be their parents.”

                    Sure you can go ahead and explain it to them. But they have to understand that it is not “normal”. You might say that sounds homophobic but I’m just saying the fact here. Being gay is not normal and needs to be treated like that. It may or may not be their fault that they end up this why, but you can’t treat it like a normal behavior. Another example of this would be like Autism, I don’t blame the person who has this, but I’m not going to say they are normal.

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          You know it is possible for parents to explain LGBT to kids in a positive way without this triggering them to become one.

          It’s not bigotry if you care about your kid’s wellbeing.

          I don’t buy that for a second, parents who instill hate or fear in their kids against a group of people are doing it wrong.

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            You can explain it to them when they are older and more mature. Maybe after puberty or something. But not when they are toddlers.

            We have to be careful what we expose our kids to. Whatever they consume, they will imitate. This is human psychology. If you expose them to abuse, they will abuse. If you expose them to porn, they will watch porn. If you expose them LGBT, they will be LGBT.

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              Of cause a child’s age has everything to say about at what level and detail you explain things.

              Regarding abuse, porn, etc.

              What we should do as parents is give our kids enough knowledge and tools to handle it when they eventually will get exposed to it. (Of cause appropriate to their age).

              What we should not do is to hide everything away and never speak about touchy subjects, or make the kid afraid of a group of people, because then we make it very easy for people to abuse our kids when they are teenagers or young adults as they don’t know anything about the world. There’s countless examples of this.