Can you read? This is a kid with hetero patents - “mummy and daddy” doesn’t sound gay to me… He sees two men together. And yet there is no confusion. It’s easily explained - they are in love.
Could’ve sworn I saw you mention daddy twice. But maybe I just misread.
That doesn’t help the child understand. They would think that these types of relationships are ok. And how would you explain where the kids come from? Adoption? This would be two walks of life the child has to understand and think about which one is for them. So it does add to the confusion. Exposing this stuff early on is very dangerous, just like how you wouldn’t expose your kid to certain things until they are more mature to understand.
That doesn’t help the child understand. They would think that these types of relationships are ok.
Sounds like they do understand, because these relationships are indeed ok.
how would you explain where the kids come from? Adoption?
Yes. Because that’s generally how it works.
This would be two walks of life the child has to understand and think about which one is for them.
That’s not how lifestyles or human thought works. You don’t live a certain way simply as an advertisement, as a suggestion for how others should live, with every action you do serving as instructions for others to emulate, as if you see yourself as some kind of god… right? That is so absurd.
Plus, seeing someone living differently isn’t a suggestion for you to live like that. That is absurd. I don’t see people on bikes and think, “are they telling me to ride a bike?”
Do you?
Also, being gay is not, as you imply, some lifestyle you choose. It’s like having brown hair or being genetically predisposed to taste Hershey’s chocolate as vomit.
Plus, no one would choose to subject themselves to a life of abuse from people like you.
So it does add to the confusion. Exposing this stuff early on is very dangerous, just like how you wouldn’t expose your kid to certain things until they are more mature to understand.
There is no confusion. Explain being gay takes one sentence as I already demonstrated (and you haven’t even attempted to refute). Adoption is just as easy. “Someone else made the baby, but these two are going to raise the baby and be their parents.”
That’s not how lifestyles or human thought works. You don’t live a certain way simply as an advertisement, as a suggestion for how others should live, with every action you do serving as instructions for others to emulate, as if you see yourself as some kind of god… right? That is so absurd.
That is in fact how human psychology works. Whatever you expose yourself to, if you expose it enough times, you start to think it’s normal.
Also saying I’m some kind of god is actually projection. I choose to live my lifestyle according to God, not because I feel like it, but because I know that God is All-Knowing and He knows what is best for humanity.
Plus, seeing someone living differently isn’t a suggestion for you to live like that. That is absurd. I don’t see people on bikes and think, “are they telling me to ride a bike?”
They are. Whatever lifestyle you choose to live by and present publicly is an advertisement saying this is the walk of life that is best and everyone should follow it. Why do you think brands like Apple, Louis Vuitton, Guchi are so successful? People buy it to show off to others saying they are rich. You and I might not think like that, but this is just human psychology. Whatever you see, you want to be. That is why you should be careful what you expose yourself to. Regardless of how much “willpower” you think you have.
Also, being gay is not, as you imply, some lifestyle you choose. It’s like having brown hair or being genetically predisposed to taste Hershey’s chocolate as vomit.
That is not entirely true. Being homosexual is not something you are born with. You can develop these attractions due to certain life experiences but you are not born with it. Scientifically speaking, there is no “Gay Gene” and that has been debunked.
There is no confusion. Explain being gay takes one sentence as I already demonstrated (and you haven’t even attempted to refute). Adoption is just as easy. “Someone else made the baby, but these two are going to raise the baby and be their parents.”
Sure you can go ahead and explain it to them. But they have to understand that it is not “normal”. You might say that sounds homophobic but I’m just saying the fact here. Being gay is not normal and needs to be treated like that. It may or may not be their fault that they end up this why, but you can’t treat it like a normal behavior. Another example of this would be like Autism, I don’t blame the person who has this, but I’m not going to say they are normal.
It’s so sad that you can’t see you’re just blinded by your own biases. No, it is normal, you are just personally not okay with it. And because you don’t like it, you assume this distaste to be the standard, an objective truth.
I don’t like pineapple on pizza, but that doesn’t mean it should be a crime.
Also, no, you do not live as an advertisement, and it is unhinged that you took that rhetorical absurd question and actually answered it in the affirmative. This is such an exhausting way to look at the world, constantly assuming everyone is asking you to be just like them.
Why do kids “need to understand it is not normal”? Explain. Because to me, it sounds like you just don’t want kids to think differently from you specifically.
Also, you can fuck right off with that bullshit about autism.
It’s so sad that you can’t see you’re just blinded by your own biases. No, it is normal, you are just personally not okay with it. And because you don’t like it, you assume this distaste to be the standard, an objective truth.
Normal according to who? You? If neither of our opinions matter then who’s to say what is right and wrong? Also, I don’t make things an objective truth just because I simply don’t like it. I get my morals and values from Islam and try to follow them the best I can. I don’t claim to be a perfect example but I will keep trying to improve.
Also, no, you do not live as an advertisement, and it is unhinged that you took that rhetorical absurd question and actually answered it in the affirmative. This is such an exhausting way to look at the world, constantly assuming everyone is asking you to be just like them.
I mean it is what it is. You influence people’s behaviors, thoughts, and decisions whether you like or not based on whatever public acts you do. If you don’t want to influence people in this way, then do those things privately.
I don’t like pineapple on pizza, but that doesn’t mean it should be a crime.
I’m not arbitrarily making things I don’t like to be crimes. I’m using the Quran to make those judgements. Based on the Quran, homosexuality is a major sin, so I’m going to despise that deed because of that.
Why do kids “need to understand it is not normal”? Explain. Because to me, it sounds like you just don’t want kids to think differently from you specifically.
Because it’s important to know that. It’s important to know a serial killer, sociopath, psycopath, suicidal thoughts etc are not normal. It is to safe guard your kid from greater harm and for them to know to try their best to fix the problem if they have it. Otherwise, they will continue to act according to their desires which may harm society.
Also, you can fuck right off with that bullshit about autism.
Don’t like that example cuz it hurts to know the truth right? I even said that autistic folk are not at fault because of what they have. They go to special school, have special needs, etc. They are different from the vast majority of people. To say they are normal though is copium.
Misleading question. It’s according to what. The answer is nature.
You influence people’s behaviors, thoughts, and decisions whether you like or not based on whatever public acts you do.
Don’t miss the point so hard. You said people live their lives only to influence others. This just isn’t true, so that entire line of reasoning is fucked.
Based on the Quran,
I don’t care what it says in some book you read. What does it say in reality? Quran says it is a sin. Why? What is wrong with it?
Because it’s important to know that.
Okay. And why is it important?
It’s important to know a serial killer, sociopath, psycopath, suicidal thoughts etc are not normal.
No, it’s important to know those are dangerous. But what do they have to do with homlsexuality? Are gays serial killers and psychopaths? That’s just homophobia talking. How on earth can you compare serial killing with being gay?
It is to safe guard your kid from greater harm and for them to know to try their best to fix the problem if they have it.
What “problem”? What harm?
. Otherwise, they will continue to act according to their desires which may harm society.
Only if those desires are harmful. I may desire a sandwich - is that going to harm society?
Don’t like that example cuz it hurts to know the truth right?
No, because it’s offensive, you fucking arsehole.
They go to special school, have special needs, etc. They are different from the vast majority of people. To say they are normal though is copium.
What special school did I go to? Ignorant cunt.
You know nothing about any of these subjects. You were just told to dislike it. You were never told to think, so you never did.
Okay, I apologize if I came off as offensive. Didn’t mean to, I was just giving an example. I did not mean to degrade them in any way. I’m just saying that what we call normal would be someone who doesn’t have that.
What special school did I go to? Ignorant cunt.
Okay well in your case it might not have been so severe. But people witb Autism do require special needs no? Or am I just being ignorant here?
Don’t miss the point so hard. You said people live their lives only to influence others. This just isn’t true, so that entire line of reasoning is fucked.
I didn’t say that was the whole purpose of every public deed someone did but it will inevitably happen intentionally or unintentionally. If I said that it was the whole purpose of people doing public deeds then I have mispoken. My argument is more of a psychological one where people will tend to imitate others or see it as normal. Even if they did so unintentionally.
Misleading question. It’s according to what. The answer is nature.
What does this even mean? Nature? Nature is not an entity. What do you define as Nature? How about you give the real answer and say God. Because I see so many people ascribing God’s qualities to things that are not enitities with any form of will like the “Universe” and “Mother Nature”.
No, it’s important to know those are dangerous. But what do they have to do with homlsexuality? Are gays serial killers and psychopaths? That’s just homophobia talking. How on earth can you compare serial killing with being gay?
Because I am saying that gay people have issues. They’ve gone through abuse or traumatic experiences that have led them to their decision. Other times it’s people just wanting to explore and “Have Some Fun” with homosexuality. In any case, homosexuality is harmful for society because it significantly increases the contraction of HIV/AIDs.
Only if those desires are harmful. I may desire a sandwich - is that going to harm society?
Homosexuality is harmful for society.
What “problem”? What harm?
Whatever problem they have. The ones I mentioned before. The ones I mentioned here:
It’s important to know a serial killer, sociopath, psycopath, suicidal thoughts etc are not normal.
I don’t care what it says in some book you read. What does it say in reality? Quran says it is a sin. Why? What is wrong with it?
If you want what it says in reality, here are the verses
And (remember) Lût (Lot), when he said to his people: "Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Âlamîn (mankind and jinn)?.
And (remember) Lût (Lot)! When he said to his people.[1] Do you commit Al-Fâhishah (evil, great sin, every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse, sodomy) while you see (one another doing evil without any screen)?".
There was no other answer given by his people except that they said: “Drive out the family of Lût (Lot) from your city Verily, these are men who want to be clean and pure!”.
Can you read? This is a kid with hetero patents - “mummy and daddy” doesn’t sound gay to me… He sees two men together. And yet there is no confusion. It’s easily explained - they are in love.
Could’ve sworn I saw you mention daddy twice. But maybe I just misread.
That doesn’t help the child understand. They would think that these types of relationships are ok. And how would you explain where the kids come from? Adoption? This would be two walks of life the child has to understand and think about which one is for them. So it does add to the confusion. Exposing this stuff early on is very dangerous, just like how you wouldn’t expose your kid to certain things until they are more mature to understand.
Sounds like they do understand, because these relationships are indeed ok.
Yes. Because that’s generally how it works.
That’s not how lifestyles or human thought works. You don’t live a certain way simply as an advertisement, as a suggestion for how others should live, with every action you do serving as instructions for others to emulate, as if you see yourself as some kind of god… right? That is so absurd.
Plus, seeing someone living differently isn’t a suggestion for you to live like that. That is absurd. I don’t see people on bikes and think, “are they telling me to ride a bike?”
Do you?
Also, being gay is not, as you imply, some lifestyle you choose. It’s like having brown hair or being genetically predisposed to taste Hershey’s chocolate as vomit.
Plus, no one would choose to subject themselves to a life of abuse from people like you.
There is no confusion. Explain being gay takes one sentence as I already demonstrated (and you haven’t even attempted to refute). Adoption is just as easy. “Someone else made the baby, but these two are going to raise the baby and be their parents.”
Maybe you just suck at explaining things.
That is in fact how human psychology works. Whatever you expose yourself to, if you expose it enough times, you start to think it’s normal.
Also saying I’m some kind of god is actually projection. I choose to live my lifestyle according to God, not because I feel like it, but because I know that God is All-Knowing and He knows what is best for humanity.
They are. Whatever lifestyle you choose to live by and present publicly is an advertisement saying this is the walk of life that is best and everyone should follow it. Why do you think brands like Apple, Louis Vuitton, Guchi are so successful? People buy it to show off to others saying they are rich. You and I might not think like that, but this is just human psychology. Whatever you see, you want to be. That is why you should be careful what you expose yourself to. Regardless of how much “willpower” you think you have.
That is not entirely true. Being homosexual is not something you are born with. You can develop these attractions due to certain life experiences but you are not born with it. Scientifically speaking, there is no “Gay Gene” and that has been debunked.
Sure you can go ahead and explain it to them. But they have to understand that it is not “normal”. You might say that sounds homophobic but I’m just saying the fact here. Being gay is not normal and needs to be treated like that. It may or may not be their fault that they end up this why, but you can’t treat it like a normal behavior. Another example of this would be like Autism, I don’t blame the person who has this, but I’m not going to say they are normal.
It’s so sad that you can’t see you’re just blinded by your own biases. No, it is normal, you are just personally not okay with it. And because you don’t like it, you assume this distaste to be the standard, an objective truth.
I don’t like pineapple on pizza, but that doesn’t mean it should be a crime.
Also, no, you do not live as an advertisement, and it is unhinged that you took that rhetorical absurd question and actually answered it in the affirmative. This is such an exhausting way to look at the world, constantly assuming everyone is asking you to be just like them.
Why do kids “need to understand it is not normal”? Explain. Because to me, it sounds like you just don’t want kids to think differently from you specifically.
Also, you can fuck right off with that bullshit about autism.
Normal according to who? You? If neither of our opinions matter then who’s to say what is right and wrong? Also, I don’t make things an objective truth just because I simply don’t like it. I get my morals and values from Islam and try to follow them the best I can. I don’t claim to be a perfect example but I will keep trying to improve.
I mean it is what it is. You influence people’s behaviors, thoughts, and decisions whether you like or not based on whatever public acts you do. If you don’t want to influence people in this way, then do those things privately.
I’m not arbitrarily making things I don’t like to be crimes. I’m using the Quran to make those judgements. Based on the Quran, homosexuality is a major sin, so I’m going to despise that deed because of that.
Because it’s important to know that. It’s important to know a serial killer, sociopath, psycopath, suicidal thoughts etc are not normal. It is to safe guard your kid from greater harm and for them to know to try their best to fix the problem if they have it. Otherwise, they will continue to act according to their desires which may harm society.
Don’t like that example cuz it hurts to know the truth right? I even said that autistic folk are not at fault because of what they have. They go to special school, have special needs, etc. They are different from the vast majority of people. To say they are normal though is copium.
Misleading question. It’s according to what. The answer is nature.
Don’t miss the point so hard. You said people live their lives only to influence others. This just isn’t true, so that entire line of reasoning is fucked.
I don’t care what it says in some book you read. What does it say in reality? Quran says it is a sin. Why? What is wrong with it?
Okay. And why is it important?
No, it’s important to know those are dangerous. But what do they have to do with homlsexuality? Are gays serial killers and psychopaths? That’s just homophobia talking. How on earth can you compare serial killing with being gay?
What “problem”? What harm?
Only if those desires are harmful. I may desire a sandwich - is that going to harm society?
No, because it’s offensive, you fucking arsehole.
What special school did I go to? Ignorant cunt.
You know nothing about any of these subjects. You were just told to dislike it. You were never told to think, so you never did.
Tty using your own brain in the future.
Okay, I apologize if I came off as offensive. Didn’t mean to, I was just giving an example. I did not mean to degrade them in any way. I’m just saying that what we call normal would be someone who doesn’t have that.
Okay well in your case it might not have been so severe. But people witb Autism do require special needs no? Or am I just being ignorant here?
I didn’t say that was the whole purpose of every public deed someone did but it will inevitably happen intentionally or unintentionally. If I said that it was the whole purpose of people doing public deeds then I have mispoken. My argument is more of a psychological one where people will tend to imitate others or see it as normal. Even if they did so unintentionally.
What does this even mean? Nature? Nature is not an entity. What do you define as Nature? How about you give the real answer and say God. Because I see so many people ascribing God’s qualities to things that are not enitities with any form of will like the “Universe” and “Mother Nature”.
Because I am saying that gay people have issues. They’ve gone through abuse or traumatic experiences that have led them to their decision. Other times it’s people just wanting to explore and “Have Some Fun” with homosexuality. In any case, homosexuality is harmful for society because it significantly increases the contraction of HIV/AIDs.
Homosexuality is harmful for society.
Whatever problem they have. The ones I mentioned before. The ones I mentioned here:
If you want what it says in reality, here are the verses
Al-A’raf 7:80
وَلُوطًا إِذْ قَالَ لِقَوْمِهِۦٓ أَتَأْتُونَ ٱلْفَٰحِشَةَ مَا سَبَقَكُم بِهَا مِنْ أَحَدٍ مِّنَ ٱلْعَٰلَمِينَ
English - Mohsin Khan/Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali
And (remember) Lût (Lot), when he said to his people: "Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Âlamîn (mankind and jinn)?.
Al-A’raf 7:81
إِنَّكُمْ لَتَأْتُونَ ٱلرِّجَالَ شَهْوَةً مِّن دُونِ ٱلنِّسَآءِۚ بَلْ أَنتُمْ قَوْمٌ مُّسْرِفُونَ
English - Mohsin Khan/Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali
Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins).
An-Naml 27:54
وَلُوطًا إِذْ قَالَ لِقَوْمِهِۦٓ أَتَأْتُونَ ٱلْفَٰحِشَةَ وَأَنتُمْ تُبْصِرُونَ
English - Mohsin Khan/Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali
And (remember) Lût (Lot)! When he said to his people.[1] Do you commit Al-Fâhishah (evil, great sin, every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse, sodomy) while you see (one another doing evil without any screen)?".
An-Naml 27:55
أَئِنَّكُمْ لَتَأْتُونَ ٱلرِّجَالَ شَهْوَةً مِّن دُونِ ٱلنِّسَآءِۚ بَلْ أَنتُمْ قَوْمٌ تَجْهَلُونَ
English - Mohsin Khan/Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali
Do you practise your lusts on men instead of women? Nay, but you are a people who behave senselessly.
An-Naml 27:56
فَمَا كَانَ جَوَابَ قَوْمِهِۦٓ إِلَّآ أَن قَالُوٓا۟ أَخْرِجُوٓا۟ ءَالَ لُوطٍ مِّن قَرْيَتِكُمْۖ إِنَّهُمْ أُنَاسٌ يَتَطَهَّرُونَ
English - Mohsin Khan/Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali
There was no other answer given by his people except that they said: “Drive out the family of Lût (Lot) from your city Verily, these are men who want to be clean and pure!”.
An-Naml 27:57
فَأَنجَيْنَٰهُ وَأَهْلَهُۥٓ إِلَّا ٱمْرَأَتَهُۥ قَدَّرْنَٰهَا مِنَ ٱلْغَٰبِرِينَ
English - Mohsin Khan/Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali
So We saved him and his family, except his wife. We destined her to be of those who remained behind.
An-Naml 27:58
وَأَمْطَرْنَا عَلَيْهِم مَّطَرًاۖ فَسَآءَ مَطَرُ ٱلْمُنذَرِينَ
English - Mohsin Khan/Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali
And We rained down on them a rain (of stones). So evil was the rain of those who were warned.
I don’t give a shit what some bigot wrote 1000 years ago.
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