• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      Why is this “pointlessly divisive?” Liberals always attack leftists and side with fascists, it’s agitprop. It’s divisive with a purpose.

      Is all Agitprop bad-faith? Lemmy.world’s proud tradition of left-punching seems more bad-faith.

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        I’m shocked, honestly, at the response to my comment.

        I don’t understand how everyone can be missing this so badly. This meme, this attitude of left vs. far left, is the EXACT same thing that the right did to themselves before the last election (and are currently still doing). This whole idea that the liberals aren’t left enough, or that, as you say, the liberals are attacking the far left, is a lie. It’s agitprop all right, but it’s agitprop designed to agitate the entirety of the left, and divide them before an election. It’s turning blue voters into non-voters or third party voters. It’s doing exactly what the right wants. It’s giving them the election on a fucking silver platter. It’s just horseshoe theory mixed with a little, “The call is coming from inside the house.”

        But, no. Go ahead. Keep believing yourself to be the victim of crimes you have no evidence of. Keep telling yourself that it’s you against the world. And when Trump takes office after the election in 4 months you can have so many other people to blame it on other than yourself.

        Great work. Keep it up. You are a true free-thinker.

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          I’m shocked, honestly, at the response to my comment.

          Why? Liberals have left-punched for their entire existence.

          I don’t understand how everyone can be missing this so badly. This meme, this attitude of left vs. far left, is the EXACT same thing that the right did to themselves before the last election (and are currently still doing). This whole idea that the liberals aren’t left enough, or that, as you say, the liberals are attacking the far left, is a lie.

          Liberals are not left. Liberalism supports Capitalism, Leftists support Socialism. Historically, such as in Nazi Germany, Liberals aligned with the fascists against the Leftists. It isn’t left vs far left, it’s left vs right.

          It’s agitprop all right, but it’s agitprop designed to agitate the entirety of the left, and divide them before an election. It’s turning blue voters into non-voters or third party voters. It’s doing exactly what the right wants. It’s giving them the election on a fucking silver platter. It’s just horseshoe theory mixed with a little, “The call is coming from inside the house.”

          No, it’s agitprop meant to get liberals to finally join the left against fascists, instead of liberals crying and handing the reigns to fascists yet again.

          But, no. Go ahead. Keep believing yourself to be the victim of crimes you have no evidence of. Keep telling yourself that it’s you against the world. And when Trump takes office after the election in 4 months you can have so many other people to blame it on other than yourself.

          When Trump takes office, it will be because liberals continue to “vote blue no matter who” as America tumbles further and further right, a dying empire, rather than for one time joining the left and organizing on the ground. Liberals vote once every 2 years and think themselves warriors against fascism as they fight against leftists at every step.

          Great work. Keep it up. You are a true free-thinker.

          Thank you! If you want reading recommendations, I have a bunch I think might help clarify some misconceptions you have.

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            2 months ago

            The fact that you can write all of that and not see that you are validating every part of the statement that you quote shows how truly up your own ass you are.

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              “No you”

              Listen, you could try to do something productive and try to read some of the same books on theory most of us have, as well as look into the historical ties between Liberalism and Fascism against Leftism. Instead, you wade in here, drop a very ill-informed comment, then act like a victim because people disagree with you online.

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                You sound like someone on Facebook that has “done their own research.” Reading propaganda isn’t the same as understanding political theory.

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                  Is reading Marx “Propaganda?” What about Engels, Luxemburg, Politzer, Chomsky, or Parenti?

                  What makes something “propaganda” and what makes something “political theory?” Is it whatever you personally agree with? Is that why you have a racist profile picture?

                  “Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds,” looks like you’ve been scratched.

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          Something left of the far right is not necessarily “left”.

          Maybe on USA that’s true but I don’t know.