I work at a big EU company, MS top partner / strategic account etc. We wanted to implement MS Dynamics CRM in one of our newer business lines, we barely got a reply to our official emails.
After some informal discussions, we were told that salespeople are now only incentivized to sell Copilot, so they don’t really bother with the rest.
If MS is overinvesting to ride the AI hype as a middle man, while letting their core business capabilities (Windows and Office) decline, they will be in trouble in the long term.
To be fair, you can be their Platinum Ultra Tier Level Partner or whatever, and they’ll still not reply to you for a week. And when you get the reply it looks like it was written by ChatGPT anyway, and says nothing.
They are purposely enshittifying windows already, they don’t give a shit about making a functional OS anymore and are in the milking their products for all their worth phase and right now Ai is the hot seller.
Hopefully they will be so shortsighted and suffocate themselves with this Ai hype.
Windows Phone was never given a chance to pan out. There wasn’t space for Windows Phone to force its way on the scene when it finally began to fire on all cylinders as a smartphone OS but they were building a critical mass of loyal users that would have set up Microsoft longterm to successfully exploit the opportunity to when it came.
It is wild to me that upper management at Microsoft was too dumb to understand that and just killed their perfectly good apparatus for gaining a foothold on the mobile market. Simply put a tech company that large should always be thinking seriously about maintaining a practical entrance to an industry as important to their bottom line as this.
They are fools and they ultimately threw mud in the face of the small amount of windows phone fans (of which there definitely were loyal fans especially for the great Nokia cameras and extremely focused UI) who could have delivered that initial burst of energy and excitement/growth when the opportunity eventually did come. Thus they have actually sealed and barricaded the door to Microsoft ever EVER being in the mobile space since they betrayed ALL of the early adopter nerds who would have stuck around for the rough beginning.
It’s kind of crazy to me that their AI product is already 50% of the revenue of their OS product. The thing that a stupidly high amount of computers require to even function for most people.
TBH if it weren’t for windows I don’t think anybody would be dumb enough to use a Mac computer. Microsoft really wasting potential in the OS market, though, I agree.
You won’t catch me defending Apple’s repairability but you saying they need repaired often is completely untrue in my experience and that of the wider user baser. In fact their durability and longevity are very good. There are people still running around with 2014 models that have never been repaired.
I mean fuck their anti right to repair bullshit, but the machines are good.
The ~2018 models right before they switched to the M series chips have been quite cursed from my experience. Basically all the touchbar models. Seen a bunch of those fail just out of warranty the last few years. Otherwise I agree Apple has been quite reliable otherwise.
As someone who tried macOS and really didn’t like it I still have to say that you’re overreacting. It is worth using if you want everything to look good while never ever configuring anything yourself (many things can’t be changed), and if you want all your devices to work together without any setup (requires buying all devices from Apple).
It can’t do anything that other OS can’t. But it does many things out of the box.
Look, mate, Apple will betray you at every possible turn. The prices they charge don’t justify the products they sell, and you incur risks by merely using their products which fail after only a few years and you’re not allowed to repair. Literally every reason you would purchase a mac, you would be better off to go with Linux or Windows instead. Even if you like the efficiency of the apple ARM processors, which they hold the advantage in only via anticompetitive market practices, their low lifespan doesn’t seem to justify the cost. Generally they’re built to last about 7 years, due to California regulations, but they experience major slowdowns and failures after about 2 or 3.
And the entire time: you’ll funneling money into sweatshop operations.
Wow you just shined a ton of light on a problem my company had. We wanted to implement a medical imaging system from one of their subsidiaries, and it took an average of 3 months for the salesperson to respond to EACH of our emails
If MS is overinvesting to ride the AI hype as a middle man, while letting their core business capabilities (Windows and Office) decline, they will be in trouble in the long term.
They aren’t just overinesting in AI, they are foreclosing the future of programming and software design as a prestigious, respectable and valuable career.
It doesn’t matter if the AI works or not, it just matters that programmers sat there and took it because they thought they were special and the ruling class would never betray their trade.
Well here we are kids if you want a realistic career that will pay the bills dont follow your heart and go into programming and computers, that is a passionate hobby you shouldnt expect to be highly paid for it. Go into the trades, anywhere else, programming as a career is fucked (and again it has nothing to do with whether AI works or not).
I work at a big EU company, MS top partner / strategic account etc. We wanted to implement MS Dynamics CRM in one of our newer business lines, we barely got a reply to our official emails.
After some informal discussions, we were told that salespeople are now only incentivized to sell Copilot, so they don’t really bother with the rest.
If MS is overinvesting to ride the AI hype as a middle man, while letting their core business capabilities (Windows and Office) decline, they will be in trouble in the long term.
To be fair, you can be their Platinum Ultra Tier Level Partner or whatever, and they’ll still not reply to you for a week. And when you get the reply it looks like it was written by ChatGPT anyway, and says nothing.
It was written by copilot, thank you very much
They are purposely enshittifying windows already, they don’t give a shit about making a functional OS anymore and are in the milking their products for all their worth phase and right now Ai is the hot seller.
Hopefully they will be so shortsighted and suffocate themselves with this Ai hype.
waves from over in the linux corner seize the day, and microsoft’s throat :P
Just installed Linux Mint the first time last month. Been very much enjoying the experience of a M$ free OS.
Hell yeah, it is so much easier than it used to be right?
How was your experience?
Any tips for someone who might be about to do the same?
Did you create a ritual pyre of Microsoft jewel cases and old manuals and stuff and burn it while dancing around it chanting burnnn babyyy burnnn?
They see the post-PC world, and Windows Phone never panned out.
Windows Phone was never given a chance to pan out. There wasn’t space for Windows Phone to force its way on the scene when it finally began to fire on all cylinders as a smartphone OS but they were building a critical mass of loyal users that would have set up Microsoft longterm to successfully exploit the opportunity to when it came.
It is wild to me that upper management at Microsoft was too dumb to understand that and just killed their perfectly good apparatus for gaining a foothold on the mobile market. Simply put a tech company that large should always be thinking seriously about maintaining a practical entrance to an industry as important to their bottom line as this.
They are fools and they ultimately threw mud in the face of the small amount of windows phone fans (of which there definitely were loyal fans especially for the great Nokia cameras and extremely focused UI) who could have delivered that initial burst of energy and excitement/growth when the opportunity eventually did come. Thus they have actually sealed and barricaded the door to Microsoft ever EVER being in the mobile space since they betrayed ALL of the early adopter nerds who would have stuck around for the rough beginning.
Well, maybe it’s good they’ll die finally.
Windows actually aren’t a very big share of their revenue, but Office is yeah.
It’s kind of crazy to me that their AI product is already 50% of the revenue of their OS product. The thing that a stupidly high amount of computers require to even function for most people.
The chart shows revenue, not profit. I wouldn’t be surprised if Copilot is not profitable.
TBH if it weren’t for windows I don’t think anybody would be dumb enough to use a Mac computer. Microsoft really wasting potential in the OS market, though, I agree.
Yeah those MacBooks are really known for their poor build quality and terrible efficiency.
Sucks to suck if you ever need one repaired. Which is very often.
You won’t catch me defending Apple’s repairability but you saying they need repaired often is completely untrue in my experience and that of the wider user baser. In fact their durability and longevity are very good. There are people still running around with 2014 models that have never been repaired.
I mean fuck their anti right to repair bullshit, but the machines are good.
The ~2018 models right before they switched to the M series chips have been quite cursed from my experience. Basically all the touchbar models. Seen a bunch of those fail just out of warranty the last few years. Otherwise I agree Apple has been quite reliable otherwise.
As someone who tried macOS and really didn’t like it I still have to say that you’re overreacting. It is worth using if you want everything to look good while never ever configuring anything yourself (many things can’t be changed), and if you want all your devices to work together without any setup (requires buying all devices from Apple).
It can’t do anything that other OS can’t. But it does many things out of the box.
Look, mate, Apple will betray you at every possible turn. The prices they charge don’t justify the products they sell, and you incur risks by merely using their products which fail after only a few years and you’re not allowed to repair. Literally every reason you would purchase a mac, you would be better off to go with Linux or Windows instead. Even if you like the efficiency of the apple ARM processors, which they hold the advantage in only via anticompetitive market practices, their low lifespan doesn’t seem to justify the cost. Generally they’re built to last about 7 years, due to California regulations, but they experience major slowdowns and failures after about 2 or 3.
And the entire time: you’ll funneling money into sweatshop operations.
Wow you just shined a ton of light on a problem my company had. We wanted to implement a medical imaging system from one of their subsidiaries, and it took an average of 3 months for the salesperson to respond to EACH of our emails
Sounds like a really good opportunity for competitors to sweep in and start attacking
There’s the slight hope that decreased service additionally to the bad reliability leads some governments to look for alternatives.
They aren’t just overinesting in AI, they are foreclosing the future of programming and software design as a prestigious, respectable and valuable career.
It doesn’t matter if the AI works or not, it just matters that programmers sat there and took it because they thought they were special and the ruling class would never betray their trade.
Well here we are kids if you want a realistic career that will pay the bills dont follow your heart and go into programming and computers, that is a passionate hobby you shouldnt expect to be highly paid for it. Go into the trades, anywhere else, programming as a career is fucked (and again it has nothing to do with whether AI works or not).
How do I short MS, hm