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      You can teach them properly about capitalism by making them follow the rules to the letter and following slightly relaxed rules for yourself, such as starting with extra cash and the ability to take out interest-free loans on you properties while still collecting rent, and reducing the costs for you to buy houses and hotels because you can leverage market forces in you favor.

      New chance cards only you could get would include:

      You busted a union, collect $100

      Shorted stocks and left everyone else holding the bag, collect $25 from each player

      Caught Insider trading, pay $1 or go to jail until your next turn

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        The original game that Monopoly is based on (The Landlord’s Game) was a tool for teaching how bad landlords and owning land privately and permanently is. Monopoly is still a great tool to show how an early advantage leads to an ever-growing monopoly that will inevitably crush all the other players with no modifications necessary.

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          Exactly this. If you want to rig the game, just give one player a bunch more money than anyone else and watch how the natural game unfolds.

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        If you want to simulate Capitalism with the Monopoly game, you need to start with:

        • All the land is already owned and randomly developed.
        • Not everybody starts with the same conditions: you have 3 classes of player, “high” getting a large amount of money and a share of the land already occupied, the “medium” getting a small amount of money and no land, the “low” starting with no money and no land. You can randomize who gets which class.

        That only one of those who starts as a “high” class player has any chance to win and the game is no fun for the rest is part of the lesson.

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        It’s not the only way to play. The original version – “The Landlord’s Game” – had an entire second “Prosperity” ruleset that Parker Brothers didn’t want you to know about.

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    For every 10 full size snickers you collect, I give you one loose m&m.

    I also put a couple of your siblings up for adoption right before Halloween to let you know you’re expendable.

    If it bothers you, you can always go talk to your mom, who empathises, so that you feel good enough to get back to collecting my our candy. But she will immediately come tell me everything you said.

    You ungrateful worm… After all I’ve done for you?

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    Additionally, if your bucket handle breaks, you need third party software and hardware to create a matching digital signature to replace the handle.

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          Why does this frighten me to the core. A donut is a tube, it makes sense but I hate this knowledge

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            Depends on how you see it, a hole or a tube. I prefer a hole.

            A common joke is that a topologist can’t see the difference between a donut and a coffee mug because you can mould a mug into a donut (assuming it has a handle).

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    Based. Also teach em to share the buckets so they can distribute the candy democratically.

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    This is like the level of the boomer meme about teaching kids about taxes.

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      Sure. Out of the 50 pieces gathered by 5 children, each will recieve 1. The owner of the bucket needs to be compensated for their risk, after all!

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      You collected 36 pieces of candy.
      Coincidentally due to forces beyond my control your rent this month is 35 pieces of candy. You understand I’ve got bills to pay too, right?

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      Well, lets see, I make my company about 3 orders of magnitude more money than they pay me every year, so I suppose if my kids gather 1000 pieces of candy, I’ll give one back to them as payment.

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      And in a communist society, the candy belongs to everyone in the neighborhood, so they have to go around passing it out until it’s equally distributed…

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        Communism isn’t about equal distribution. Communism is about addressing everyone’s needs from everyone’s collective abilities.

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        No, the buckets would be communally owned, and those who were luckier - perhaps they got to the good houses earlier - would be made to give some of their surplus to Jimmy, who fell ill just that morning and couldn’t go trick-or-treating to not infect others. They’d still have enough, but Jimmy wouldn’t be left out just because he was unlucky.

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          So how does that work for real life? You going to cut off a bedroom and give it to jimmy? Or give him one of your cars?

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            I don’t even have a car, because I can’t afford one, nor do I have a spare bedroom because I live in a small apartment, paying a chunk of my monthly earnings to a person whose only contribution is having a piece of paper that says they’re allowed to charge for the fundament necessity of having a place to live.

            My neighbour has a big house, three cars in their driveway and most of the time, at least two of them are standing around unused. He probably could afford to share. That’s the meaning of “everyone, according to their needs” - that guy most likely doesn’t need as much as he has, so it won’t hurt him to give some away to people that do need it.

            But the issue isn’t him having something nice. He can have his house for all I care. I want him to have a nice house. I want Jimmy to have a nice house, and you too! I want all of us to have nice things, because a bit of luxury isn’t the problem, and covering a symptom won’t cure the disease. And the disease is the belief that property rights matter more than human welfare.

            You wouldn’t achieve anything by taking a little from those that have a little more than the rest. You’d have to take away the systems that constrain us.

            There’s an empty flat? Great, let’s give it to Jimmy! What do you mean, if he can afford the rent? Man needs a place to live, for fuck’s sake. Jimmy needs medical care? Get him to a doctor. The community carries the cost, because we all would want the same if we needed care.

            How do we reach that? That’s a tough one. Eventually, a concerted effort to uproot that system will have to take place. I’m not positive that’ll succeed on ballots alone and as has become increasingly evident, peaceful protests tend to meet violence all the same.

            But whether through coordinated civil action like protests and disobedience or through outright revolution, awareness is the first step. Informing people of the injustice done to us all, that it doesn’t have to be this way, and that together, we’re strong enough to change it.

            The only people that don’t profit from it are the ruthlessly selfish ones that think “I’d rather have a second car than let someone else have one” is a reasonable sentiment.

            Because yes, if I had a car I didn’t need, and Jimmy needed it, I’d let him use it. What good would it do standing around?

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    Teach them about statism and tell them you own the bucket and all the candy they gathered and all the candy all their friends gathered. Give them a welfare of a few pieces of candy you gathered. Then tell them to go gather more candy otherwise they’re grounded.

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      Is statism some term that uneducated Americans with a “gubment bad”-complex uses when they can’t figure out their -isms?

      EDIT: Yup. Some neolib “hey why am I not free to exploit people the way I want to? fuck the gubmint!” bullshit that “anarchists” apparently swallow whole. I swear anarchists, anarchocapitalists and neoliberals are the dumbest fuckers around.

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        It must be nice to live somewhere where the individuals who make up the government are completely altruistic and not selfish or corruptible at all so you can give them extensive power over your life without worry. Unfortunately I have less faith in the unchecked goodness of government workers. I prefer a system built on individuals and free exchange.

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        Is there another term for the political ideology or system where the state has substantial centralized control over social and economic affairs?

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      It’d be more correct to say that they all own the totality of the candy gathered, because they share the bucket, and as such can democratically allocate the candy.

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        I like this, I felt like I learned your view better. Unfortunately I’m an individual not a collective. I own my own body and therefore I own the fruits of the labors I endure. I dont think this theoretical democratic “they” should have any say over my body or the products I generate with my efforts.

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            Dad owns the bucket and you get 1 piece for every 1000 you collect. Sure Dad’s gonna take 99.9% of the candy, and working together we’d end up each taking home way more candy, but then I’d have to work collectively with “they”! No thanks. /s

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    mom always got her ‘cut’…

    as payment for driving us across town to the ‘good’ neighborhoods.

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        Child: “But daddy, this pillowcase smells like chemicals and has holes in it?”

        Dad: “Halloween is cancelled, you’re a freedom hating lib-cuck that hates freedom.”

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      If they learn anything, it’s to shove some rocks in the pillow case and beat their dad with it until they get to keep all the candy they collect.

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    Nah, make it illegal to own buckets.

    That’s the states candy, cease your investigation.