I absolutely agree that they should have been more careful. But justice is justice. . .so do you believe they deserve to do jail time for being stupid/careless when presumably no one was harmed?

Who says they’re not smuggling ammo into the country to use for criminal activity? You only need to fire a single bullet to kill someone.

The woman in question was traveling with her daughter, and was caught with 2 rounds of ammo in her bag when leaving the country. If you are trying to smuggle it in, why are you bringing it back out?

But if they can prove that she was trying to smuggle ammo into the country, what the law was meant for, then yes please let her burn. But “she might have been, so it’s fine she is doing prison time despite it almost certainly just being a dumb mistake” doesn’t sit well with me at all. I don’t believe it It should sit well with anyone who claims to care about justice.

I also assume 12 years is the upper limit for possession here.

You really think someone should do prison time for making a mistake that didn’t even hurt anyone?

but the four earlier tourists were carrying guns.

Please back this claim up, because I honestly believe it’s completely made up. Because even someone else in this thread points to another case where it was just 4 rounds of ammo.

Downvoted for pointing out the facts. lol. Good job Lemminites!

There is zero evidence that any of these people arrested were intentionally bringing ammo into their country. The woman in the article was actually caught with 2 rounds in her bag when she was leaving the country.

Do you have anything that actually indicates any of these people who have been arrested there demanded that this exact thing happen to everyone else globally? Outside of that, it just reeks of dealing with the cognitive dissonance of thinking you care about justice, but having a vengeful attitude towards Americans, probably because you have a low opinion of America’s politics.

There is a big difference between it being easy to believe he would be, and something being evidence that he is.

Read the rest of this thread. Pretty much every other top comment is about whether they should be able to hold stocks at all. They didn’t read the article, assumed it was something they could throw onto the pile of reasons they hate alito, so anything that calls that into question must be democratically banned.

The question is whether this indicates he was taking part in the boycott, not whether he was insider trading.

But ultimately I agree, the fact that there is a public boycott against them that looks like it has some legitimate legs is going to cause a lot of people to sell the stock, whether they agree with the boycott or not.

I’m with you, but that has pretty much nothing to do with this.

The flag flying upside down outside his house is blatantly a violation.

Him selling stock in a company that has a boycott against it doesn’t, at all, strike me as a being part of the boycott.

Why do so many people think it’s a good argument to say that because the us does some bad shit, otherwise innocent people should spend a decade in prison for making a mistake? It’s makes zero sense.

Itt, people being downvoted for answering the question.

Gotta love Lemmy. Lol

Obviously not a good faith question.

If it hasn’t come at trump’s request, I would agree with you. But allowing trump to get this win when it comes to changing the requirements for the debates would just open the door for more demands.

oh you were in the legislature when the laws were crafted?

Lol were you in the legislature when they passed this law? You seemed to have no issue declaring the reason for it when it confirmed what you wanted to be true, and now hypocritically are attacking me for for actually knowing why the law exists.

And no one is saying that they can’t make their laws as they like. You’ve so badly lost this argument, and you know it, that you’ve turned to blatant hypocrisy and to attacking strawmen. Again, to be clear, I’m arguing the law is clearly unjust and it would a travesty of justice that these people lose 10 years of their lives, and their children lose 10 years of their parents, because they made a mistake.

You’ve made it clear the reason you have a hard on for these people being punished is that they gun owners and you don’t like gun owners. I’m just holding the mirror up and you don’t like what you see.

Can I ask that you first explain to me why you think this mother, while travelling with her daughter, was intentionally trying to smuggle 2 rounds of ammo out of Turks and Caicos? If you can come up with a reasonable explanation for this, I’d be happy to answer your question.

Holy shit, you’re actually trying to argue that it’s unjust to be punished for intentionally breaking a law, but perfectly fine to be punished with 10 years in prison for making a mistake.

You’re very blatantly playing the role of the racist conservative gleefully cheering on the imprisonment of a person from a group they don’t like, regardless of the justness of the reason, and you have no idea.

Do I fuck around and attempt to find out? No.

Again, you keep trying to paint it as them intentionally breaking the law. There is no indication of this. It seems just dishonest at this point to continually frame it this way. They didn’t “attempt to find out” they fucked up. Why is this so hard for you to admit?

I couldn’t care less why they weren’t smart enough. I’m okay with them being punished for it, but in these cases a fine seems more reasonable than a decade in prison.

by the gun lovers in this thread who would see them skate on their crimes.

I’m for pretty strict gun control. You are exposing yourself here: this isn’t about being reasonable, it’s about some vengefulness against gun owners. Get out of your black and white thinking and taking sides and be objective.