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    Mac OS. People say it costs more, but I am not paying for a hardware and then some software that tries to make use of it. Instead I’m paying for a well thought out product that just works.

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      that (mostly) just works.

      FTFY

      As a Mac user since 2007 it feels like that statement gets a little less true every couple of years. But for me it’s still light years ahead of Windows when it comes to my workflow.

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      And even though it does cost more at first, it lasts a lot longer and gets lots more free OS updates that most other ones.

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        More free OS updates? You can upgrade your PC from Windows 7 to 10 for free (even to 11 if you have TPM2). That will be decades of free updates and upgrades.

        Not to mention Linux, FreeBSD, and the like.

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          Call me crazy, but I don’t see people rocking laptops from 2008 until this date, I have seen people using Macs from that day using recent macOS versions (with OCLP) and some hardware tweaks like upgrading the RAM or SSD if needed, or replacing the battery.

          Heck my Mac is from 2014 and it runs fairly fine.

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            I happened to sell an old PC recently, from 2010 IIRC. It had a Windows 8 license that could be “upgraded” to Windows 10 which would run fine on this machine until at least 2025. I think 15 years is quite okay. After that it could still run Linux like forever.

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            I have an asus laptop from the windows 8 days, sticker doesn’t even say 8.1. Can’t run windows for shit anymore but it flies with linux, even distros with gnome. I think my toshiba was 8.1, that thing flies with linux too.

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          True, in that order. Win 7, then 10, which almost doesn’t run because of hardware requirements, then all those Linux distros. You will be busy with installing and configuring these for decades, because it mostly doesn’t just work.

          But it’s free, if you value your time to nothing.

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        The os updates thing may hold more water for iOS… It’s a bit suspect when comparing to Windows and just plain wrong if you compare to any major Linux distro.

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    Linux of course. I don’t invite Apple or Microsoft into my computer. Apple has good hardware though so I can understand using a mac.

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    I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

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      I don’t stop there. I like to give the FULL name of my operating system when I use it. Example:

      “What distro are you running?”

      “Oh on this laptop here? This laptop is running Mint, daughter of Ubuntu, son of Debian, daughter of Linux, son of GNU! Her ancestors hail from the mountains of Copyleft, where the mighty Stallman wields his hammer Emacs to forge her people’s legendary tools!”

      Anything shorter is just disrespectful.

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      My 2nd favorite pasta, only topped by

      Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.

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      GNU gets credit for the GPL, and for being the first major project to start to create a free Unix operating system. So it’s true that when the Linux kernel was first released, the fact that you could boot a usable operating system on top of it was due to GNU.

      But…the success of what most of us just call “Linux” since then is due to thousands of individuals and organizations other than GNU. The vast majority of free software running on top of a Linux operating system has nothing to do with GNU and is not licensed under the GPL.

      Let’s say I’m running Linux on a server, for a small app running the MERN stack. Literally none of the MERN stack is GNU.

      Let’s say I’m running Linux on a desktop. I’m depending on Wayland, KDE, Chromium, VSCodium, and a dozen other tools, none of which are GNU.

      However, the fact that I can use the same OS to run a tiny embedded device or a superpowered server, that’s due to the Linux kernel and the thousands of individuals, organizations, and companies who have made it into the most efficient and versatile operating system kernel in the world, period.

      So to me, I have no problems at all calling the operating system “Linux”.

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    I use EndeavourOS. I like pacman and AUR, as well as the fact that Arch-based distros are well-supported by most software. I’m too much of a noob/too lazy to setup an OS without a GUI installer though, which is why I prefer Endeavour over Arch.

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      I use it too, it’s great. I’ve been using Linux for decades and I know it intimately but why waste time fiddling with installing when Endeavour OS can do it with sane defaults while I brew a coffee ‽ I recently got a new laptop and I was ready to play Baldur’s Gate 3 from the old SSD in 20 min.

      I did spend a minute installing btrfs-assistant and btrfsmaintenance though, it’s nice being able to boot a snapshot from grub just in case. I could probably have grabbed Garuda Linux instead but I’m happy with Endeavour.

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      I’ve installed Arch myself plenty of times, and I use Endeavour now just because I don’t feel like spending the time. Automation is a wonderful thang.

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    Windows 7.

    It was the peak of windows.

    It was slick. It was fast. It was stable, and it was super easy to use. Never had a single problem with it, and unlike past windows OS’s it didnt require regular reformats to clean house for stability.

    Unfortunately its dead now, and Microsoft abandoned that approach and switched to a slow burn approach at walled gardening.

    I use Linux now, have been for years, because I saw where microsoft was going when Win10 was in previews, and there was no way I was going to be part of it… So I jumped ship as soon as EoL was announced for Win 7

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      Launch by hitting windows key and start typing (this is now a bullshit web search)

      The taskbar was usable (fuck this app grouping)

      Virtual desktops

      Fast

      Stable

      Looked fine

      Hit F8 for recovery options on boot

      System rollback

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    MacOS, so easy to use that even 5 year old me had no trouble using it. Also because of how reliable it is, my custom PC running Windows has crashed more times in the past year than all the Mac’s I’ve ever had combined (since 2007)

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      Windows is rock solid and doesn’t crash unless there are problems with a 3rd party driver or hardware like RAM. That’s why custom rigs can sometimes have problems because it’s not all controlled by one company.

      I prefer Linux though. I find Windows annoying.

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        I’m not sure if this is a joke or not, but in case it isn’t: Windows isn’t stable at all, third party drivers or not. I’ve never had a Windows PC that I would describe as stable, including the preconfigured laptops and towers I’ve had. They all bluescreen and crash or freeze more or less regularly (but stability isn’t what I care about when I run Windows).

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          It was not a joke, I’ve worked on Windows and Linux for decades and I’ve worked on Symbian OS and Android as an OS engineer. With the right hardware and stable drivers neither crash. Anecdotally (which admittedly proves nothing) my gaming PC’s only ever crashed because I had bad RAM, which i diagnosed with memtest86.

          It’s not the operating system. This is the weakness of Windows/Linux - the many many vendors of PC components and badly written drivers. It’s not the operating system’s fault as such, unless you count the OS’ fault for not running a microkernel with drivers in a less privileged ring like Symbian OS did.

          Now, the UI freezing and having weird random slowdown that’s another thing and one of the reasons I prefer Linux. I’m very grateful for Valve/Proton that I have been able to ditch Windows completely now.

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          I’ve have Windows for at least the last ten years and this has maybe happened at few times. Windows is still a privacy hell, but it is stable.

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          Yeahhhh this sounds like user error. We have heaps of computers in my house we’re currently using. One is a prebuilt from like 2009 (Phenom II x4) and the rest I’ve built myself. They all run incredibly stable. The old Phenom is up nearly 24/7 as a media player in the living room. It’s got some hodgepodge random RAM I found and a low-end SSD. Never crashes.

          My other computers are all higher end gaming machines and the only crashes I have are when I’m playing a game that is known to crash. Never just random bluescreens or freezes. Oldest machine is 10 years, newest machine is a few months.

          I also have some Linux machines and an old MacBook and those are stable as fuck as well, but man… something is wrong with your Windows usage.

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    Debian. Been running debian stable on 99% of my servers at work. And debian testing on the desktop, and daily driver. What orginally made me switch from redhat 7 was how frequent i ran into rpm hell, and how difficult it was to do an inplace upgrade. When i could just dist-upgrad to debian woody and everything worked, with a few well documented tweaks, I was sold. And have been running Debian on everything since 2002 ish.
    It is stable, reliable, and dependable for the most critical applications. Truly the universal operating system for me.

    Edit: forgot to mention that on the 3 desktop machines i prefer KDE. It looks and acts most similar to amiga os, that i grew up with.

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      Completely agree. Switched from Debian to unraid for my new server at home 4 weeks ago. Boy do I regret that decision.

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    macOS and I like that despite how closed it is you can find new features, commands, apps and cool facts any day, I am gonna start to log all the good shit it has because my brain can’t keep up LMAO.

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      I always hear people say how good macOS is but never say what exactly is good about it. Please tell me why I should try it out

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        Well, for starters do you have a mac?

        I wouldn’t attempt to try hackintosh or something like that in a non Apple product, not if you don’t like thinkering at least.

        Obviously macOS works better with Apple products, performance and battery wise (for example in models where you can install Windows it sucks big time battery performance wise, and the hardware doesn’t help either).

        What I like about my mac is that it is like having the best of Windows and Linux merged, you got a nice interface with good program support and also scratches the Linux itch with its terminal, and you can also install homebrew from there, very similar as you’d do from any Linux distro (I manage completely my Synology NAS from there with SSH for example, something that was not always possible in Windows natively).

        The keyboard commands are nice as well.

        Maybe I just feel that way because my OS journey went from Windows > Linux > macOS.

        By no means it is a perfect OS, It sucks that it is not as customizable as the other two, also its window management sucks balls without the proper programs (apps/programs really improve the experience overall).

        Honestly I don’t think I can cover all the good and bad things about this OS, or any other, if you are interested you can give a quick glance in any Apple store, but that is just the tip of the iceberg obviously.

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        Personally for me it’s that it’s not as resource heavy as windows whilst offering a similar out of box ‘it just works’. Sure it’s not the best tool for the job in a lot of regards but for example I have two laptops from early 2014. A macbook air and a windows laptop running windows 10. The macbook air runs smoothly when browsing the Web, or studying whereas the windows laptop ends up slowing down a lot and chugging.

        I will say I am a fan of the best tool for the job approach though. Doing a lot of office based work and need word editing or spreadsheet editing? Windows. Gaming? Windows. Server work? Linux. Music/video production? Macs

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      Do you mean Workbench, or AmigaOS?

      I do like the aesthetics of Workbench 3.9, the pixel art for the icons is very cute :-)

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    Debian 12 just overtook Fedora for me after the Red Hat debauchery. With podman/distrobox/qemu/flatpak installed I really don’t need my base OS to constantly be the latest and greatest. And I sure love that debian is community run and has taken the step to include non free software.

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      Yea, went the other way to OpenSuse Leap and have a tumbleweed, Fedora and arch distrobox. Distrobox is such a helpful tool.