Alright, I stopped scrolling. Now what? Do I write a disapproving letter to my local politician?
You install Hannah Montana Linux on their cars and their spouses.
Instructions unclear, a local senator’s wife throws a kernel error and won’t boot now… Help.
just insert a “live USB” and troubleshoot inside her
But for gods sake don’t install on bare metal
Hey at least you can… oh god, flash her, and then hopefully she’ll reboot.
Better than a halt and catch fire code being tripped.
I don’t think flashing a senator’s wife would be a good idea.
Push a LiveUSB inside her. It’s not rape if you are a sysadmin. Let’s see if you find something’s fishy down there.
Did you swipe the credit card through her cleavage or ass cleavage?
Oh my fucking god you monster!
Thats amazing.
Wait. WAIT.
Ok, now, in my own personal head cannon, Hannah Montana Linux is the OS that was running on the little robot thing that … Hannah Montana got stuck in, in that one episode of Black Mirror.
Its perfect!
you hijack cartoon network’s broadcast and play this meme over it until their lawyers physically beat you to death
Strongly worded!
I can’t remember where I read this but I saw somewhere that open firmware is forbidden in things like cellular modems because it might be abused to disrupt communications. I think that’s bullshite, though.
In theory, yes, you could make a mess, and any firmware is supposed to be certified to allow the device to be used.
In practice, this has been a convenient excuse to keep a whole chip with a separate OS in every smartphone, and it is very difficult to isolate from the rest of the system (see Graphene OS efforts).
I say all firmware should be opensource. Whether you’re allowed to change them or not is a separate question… for now.
How would open source software be used to disrupt communications? What am I not understanding here?
Different countries regulate the radio spectrum differently, so transmitting on a certain frequency might be legal in country A but illegal in country B. They don’t bother making different radios for different countries, though; instead, they just build hardware capable of transmitting on all the frequencies and then restrict what it can do via the firmware. The argument goes, if they allow device owners to modify the firmware, then they might modify the radio to transmit illegally. Never mind that there are myriad other ways an attacker could do that, that are almost as cheap and easy…
There are easier ways to cause chaos:
Get a cheap phone.
Write some code to have it play, at the loudest possible volume, a pure sine wave at 18000hz to 19000hz, just outside of the range nearly all humans can consciously be aware of hearing a sound, but within the range that prolonged exposure to this sound can cause humans to become panicked, irritable, delusional, sometimes even hallucinatory, and have immense difficulty sleeping.
Leave the phone somewhere.
Obviously, do not actually do this.
Probably this would be considered terrorism, and get you in about as much trouble as fucking about with your conception of what could be used as a sort of crap tier EM jammer.
I’m saving this for later.
You don’t need a phone at all to do this. Or code. Or silicon. Just a cheap RC oscillator circuit tuned to that frequency and connected to a battery and a tweeter speaker.
Edit: where’s RadioShack when you need it?
AliExpress bots have probably already read this comment and put together a ‘panic inducer top quality rechargeable usb frequency tweeter for wedding, birthday, sonic warfare, corporate and special event’ which you can buy for five dollars
Driven out of business by the CIA and FBI to prevent this from being easily doable no doubt!
(kidding, obviously lol)
What app can do this? And do phone speakers even reach this range?
To the best of my knowledge,
no, which is why I said write some code,
And,
it technically depends but probably most speakers for most consumer grade hardware can do this, though I do not know about optimal decibel levels at such decibel ranges to be necessary to induce the effect, relative to time, battery life, energy cost, etc.
I will again repeat DO NOT DO THIS.
It legitimately could be considered terrorism.
In additional to the other comment, I think there’s also a traditional fear of corruption in open source. If the code is public then malicious parties are free to read and take advantage of holes in the security. Secondly it would be possible to contribute code with secret functionality that goes unnoticed. These are fairly easily debunked but seem to remain in people’s heads.
Ugh I hate these arguments about giving bad actors easier access. Bad actors are going to figure out flaws and security holes whether it’s open source or not. Security through obfuscation is a temporary measure and having more eyes on the source means more chances for good actors to find flaws and publicize them for fixes.
Isn’t this actually more likely to happen if it’s closed-source, since the code isn’t visible to third-parties like security researchers? That’s why zero days are a thing.
Easy, since it’s open source, anyone could, if they’re inclined, edit the code to do something just differently enough to cause a problem, or unlock features they’re not supposed to have access to, or spoof something that they shouldn’t be able to spoof.
This was a big argument against Windows getting a full Unix style socket in Windows 10, I believe. MS did it anyway and basically nothing changed. The blunt realty is that if an attacker is so inclined, they will find a way. Whether anyone wants them to or not. In the case of Unix style sockets, simply pushing the attack onto a Linux VM running on the windows system is usually enough, at most, moving the attack to a Linux or Unix system is also pretty easy but requires additional hardware (even a raspberry Pi) to complete.
As simply as I can, there’s enough software defined radios out there that you can hack to accurately spoof a genuine (closed source) device with enough effort, that this argument dies on the table to anyone with the technical knowledge to know what it actually means. It’s the same argument as outlawing guns. If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns; which is also total horseshit in it’s own right, but makes a point. They’re making it hard for people (the non-malicious public) to get access to services in the way they want on the basis that it would “make it easier” for hackers to do the illegal. While it may be true that hackers will be able to do some things easier, by not requiring specialized hardware to do whatever malicious thing they want, they’re effectively punishing thousands or hundreds of thousands of people who are not malicious and want open source by prohibiting it, just to make the small number of hackers work harder to do things.
Fact is, if they allow it, they need to invest time and effort into implementing safeguards to ensure that any abuse is caught and stopped. They don’t want to put in that effort. The idiotic thing is that they need to put in those safeguards anyways because other tools exist that can still attack in the same manner. So they’ve saved themselves nothing in the prohibition, made the job of malicious hackers “harder”, and punished a large percentage of their client base for no good reason.
Heck, if only the firmware running on the modem itself was nonfree/proprietary I wouldn’t much care, but the drivers and device specifications itself are commonly secret too! Like, they sell a modem and do not tell how it even should be used, just throwing a garbage Android binary blob driver or posting the messy driver to Microsoft developer account and they don’t care if anyone else is able to use the devices.
If everything that might cause disruption was forbidden, we wouldn’t be allowed to do anything. Even normal user traffic in high enough quantities can cause services to go down. No malicious intent involved.
IMO, that argument is complete BS.
Uploads thousands of open source 3d printed firearm designs
Like this?
(No Mr. FBI/ATF I do not actually have those)
Just an FYI, that’s not illegal because it falls under the U.S. Constitutional protection of free speech; so also is printing and constructing them. Selling them or distributing guns as physical products is not protected, and is in fact illegal.
Wait are you telling me it is legal to construct and possess a fully automatic firearm without a class three license?
Or say, already own a firearm, and then construct a modification that makes it fall out of compliance with local laws by making it fully auto, having a magazine that is too large, or a bump stock or things like that?
I am certain the situation is more complex than you seem to think, hence the semi-ironic disclaimer.
While NFA items are a different story, you’re generally allowed to manufacture anything you could legally buy in a store. So no suppressors / SBRs / destructive devices without the appropriate paperwork & tax stamps, no machine guns without all that and a time machine, and no fun allowed if you’re a prohibited person. Other than that, there’s nothing* stopping you from printing, say, a semi-automatic rifle with a 16 inch barrel or a glock frame.
*Federally. Also, I am a dumbass and not a lawyer, do your own research.
So… it is indeed vastly more complicated.
Glad you agree, this is the internet, and I have run into people uh, quite often, who have gotten into trouble via having a simplistic view of very complex topics and believing they will be fine.
Usually this is not on the topic of guns, but as we appear to live in the stupidest possible timeline, I can never be sure these days.
Uploads thousands of open source 3d printed firearm designs
Like this?
(No Mr. FBI/ATF I do not actually have those)
Nowhere in any part of your comment did you explicitly state, nor imply construction of full-auto and those have been illegal since the fucking 80’s.
I made a very general joke.
3d printed gun designs
Then you said
Just an FYI, that’s not illegal because it falls under the U.S. Constitutional protection of free speech; so also is printing and constructing them. Selling them or distributing guns as physical products is not protected, and is in fact illegal.
‘3d printed guns’ includes fully automatic guns.
You then said printing or constructing them is not illegal and is protected by Freedom of Speech.
Then I pointed out that 3d printed guns includes automatic weapons.
At this point, I do not actually know if you are aware that you /can/ find designs for fully automatic weapons on some 3d printed gun sites, and that there are, as I mentioned, a lot of people who are very adamant about that being fine and totally legal.
Again, hence my semi-ironic disclaimer to the FBI/ATF.
How do you think I know there are 3d printed full auto designs, usually in .22lr?
I say ‘Semi-Ironic’ because I may actually be on a relatively low priority watch list simply for browsing such sites.
I promise you are not on a watch list for looking at 3D printer files. This is the kind of shit the ATF likes to spread to scare people.
Wait are you telling me it is legal to construct and possess a fully automatic firearm without a class three license?
No.
A semi-auto? Yes.
With your class III SOT? Sure, full auto.
Or say, already own a firearm, and then construct a modification that makes it fall out of compliance with local laws by making it fully auto, having a magazine that is too large, or a bump stock or things like that?
Bump stocks are legal again Mr. Outdated Info, but like I mentioned above, while manufacturing things you’re allowed to own is something you’re allowed to do, manufacturing something you’re not allowed to own is perhaps unsurprisingly not allowed. Wtf are we doing here, really? You couldn’t have figured this out?
I am certain the situation is more complex than you seem to think, hence the semi-ironic disclaimer.
I mean no not really, these wild claims are yours and yours alone.
Cool, /wasn’t replying to you or commenting on the situation generally/.
Glad you felt the need to take my words out of context and then act as if I was being ‘wild’.
You are exactly the kind of person I /thought/ the person /I was actually replying to might be/, the kind of disingenuous, abusive, gaslighting, reckless asshole that gives less insane firearms enthusiasts a bad reputation.
I/responded/to/you/,generally/.
I didn’t take them out of context, from your statement it is clear you read into the one you replied to and decided it meant he was implying that all other laws and restrictions are null and void simply because some other thing is legal. It’s like if he said “you can actually legally put rat poison in peanut butter” in the context of killing rats in their attic and you say “oh yeah well what if you feed it to your neighbor’s kid.” Obviously the other relevant laws still apply, your comment is not needed at all.
No/u/lol/and/WTF/is/with/the/slashes?
Seems weird it would fall under free speech specifically.
Why?
It’s just not how I’m used to thinking of it I guess. Sharing gun designs for 3D printer just doesn’t seem like the sort of thing that would be covered by free speech. I always think of sharing your views, opinions, arguing for something and so on as free speech. My reaction would be to consider that other stuff as some sort of publishing or some such thing.
My reaction would be to consider that other stuff as some sort of publishing or some such thing.
Apologies for my poor reading comprehension, i am kind of dumb; can you please elaborate what you mean by that sentence?
It just feels more like distributing a product or something rather than it being the speech mentioned in free speech. I’m not making a legal argument or anything btw, I’m just talking about what the term brings to my mind.
(No Mr. FBI/ATF I do not actually have those)
They’re legal, they can suck a fat one even if you do have them. You can even have the files for a DIAS (but if you print a DIAS and get caught you’ll be in prison for 10yr.) You can print guns just fine legally though, but only for you they are not* transferrable.
*There is some contention over whether or not it would be legal to transfer. The law specifies intent which is hard to prove, and lends itself to the “well I intended to build it for me, but then eventually I let go of it when I wanted to upgrade…” argument. Thus far I don’t think precedent has been set and I certainly don’t want to be the case that sets it.
Mhm, theres tons of people who have been imprisoned who have done what you outlined in your asterisk there and it did not work out for them in court.
Regardless of how it /should be/, I am worried about /existing reality/, sure seems like this whole situation is astoundingly technical, complex, constantly changing with different rules being interpreted differently by different judges according to different laws in different locales which pass different relevant laws pretty frequently.
Sure seems like a blanket statement covering guns without a huge write up of specific disclaimers, or a general added comment joking about the complexity of the situation by disavowing being possibly in possession of things that may possibly lead to incarceration is warranted.
Mhm, theres tons of people who have been imprisoned who have done what you outlined in your asterisk there and it did not work out for them in court.
There are also people who the DA neglected to bring charges against at all, and people sometimes get acquitted for the same crimes another gets convicted for, with the same or similar evidence, because the jurors voted differently or the lawyers in one were better than the other. Welcome to the American justice system. I notice you glossed over the part where I said “but I wouldn’t try that myself” too, interesting.
Regardless of how it /should be/, I am worried about /existing reality/,
Ok, well as reality currently exists you can manufacture any arms you can legally own for yourself. You can even manufacture suppressors if you do the right forms, engrave the relevant info, and pay your $200 extortion fee. Yes “all those other laws that apply still apply, you can’t legally murder someone with it either, duh, and your entire comment is just Mr. Obvious bullshit.”
All the laws regarding all firearms are everchanging because people keep attempting pointless feature bans and the ATF who cannot legally regulate as they are not a regularory agency keeps changing their “rules” that totally aren’t “laws” even though they carry 10+yr prison sentances specifically to make gun ownership undesirable. Welcome to gun ownership “ghost” or otherwise. This doesn’t make the statement that “actually gun files are legal to have, you can even legally print them” false just because you read into it too hard and assume that means it allows you to break other laws.
The only thing i want is DIY paper printer with open source driver + DIY ink cartridges.
It’s kinda weird to me because i can find DIY 3d printer + it’s driver (open source) online, but no company made DIY paper printer with DIY cartridges until now
Fuck HP, Epson, Canon, or whatever big company printers out thereI have a Brother laser printer. (I love it, but that’s not important here.)
The firmware doesn’t support duplexing A5 paper. I’m wondering if this is a good place to dip my toe into the world of open source driver development.
Well we don’t know if no one start to made it it
I think it’s good if someone out there trying to make open source driver, imagine if we can add more features to our printers (like duplex A5 printing for your case) & especially if you can bypass HP printers that can broken printer if you used aftermarket ink
The problem is the most important parts of inkjet/laser printers are pretty difficult to make by hand.
You can DIY a plotter though. Probably could figure out a continuous supply of ink to the pen too?
Well what’s different with 3d printer ?
I think 3d printer it’s very complicated compared to paper printer because 3d printer can print objects in 3d (need to calibrated in x,y,z position just to make it right) but paper printer just 2d
I think the right answer because no one want to make it because the business model of selling paper printer itself already at profit loss, printer company made profits from selling ink cartridges not from selling the printer itselfResolution, generally.
A laser printer operates by using UV light to make fine pigment powder stick to a drum by static electricity. True to it’s name, it used to be done via a laser that scanned the drum by reflecting off a rotating mirror - but nowadays it’s just as often a line of tiny UV LEDs. The pigment is than baked onto the paper by a small electric oven.
The pulses of the laser and the pitch of those LEDs is generally way finer than what your run of the mill 3D printer is able to achieve reliably. And definitely finer than any nozzle you could put onto a 3D printer.
Theoretically you could DIY the spinning mirror approach, but it would be difficult to source the optical parts, and calibrating it would be a gigantic pain in the ass. Not to mention that it would likely be significantly more expensive than an off-the-shelf laser printer.
Also, guess what happens if you don’t have toner cartridge and print drum as one sealed unit. The printing medium is so fine it gets everywhere, ask anyone who ever tried reloading one of those cartridges.Square Singer explained the difference with InkJet above.
Modern paper printers are deceptively advanced machines. They’d be pretty impressive if not for the greed of the manufacturers. High-precision parts made just right so that you could print out whatever annoying document your employer wants you to actually sign and bring in physically.
A 3D printer is comparatively slow and generally prints in one colour. As I said, you can make a plotter easily by swapping out the print head for a pen, but then you have a single-colour printer that’s significantly slower than modern laser printers, that can be upgraded to have multiple colours with a toolchanger but won’t produce anything near the resolution of an inkjet (or even a laser printer, tbh).
For reference, this is how a plotter at work looks like. Similar to bed slingers, ain’t it.
I feel like theoretically it maybe could be possible to turn an SLA printer into a paper printer, with resin solidifying on a page? But then how would you keep the rest of the page from being smudged?
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What’s different? Basically the whole thing.
A 3D printer (talking here about FDM because SLA really shares nothing at all with a 2D printer) is basically a tiny hot glue gun being moved on three axies by stepper motors. Of course, the temperature and extrusion controls are much more accurate than a hot glue gun, but that’s the basic principle. You got a single “printing point” that gets moved around and it only extrudes filament from that single point.
An inkjet printer has one stepper motor that moves the paper and another that moves the print head from left to right. So there too are axies moved on stepper motors. A very simple trait also shared by e.g. CD and disk drives, slot machines, camera lenses and many other things. All these things are as close to a 2D printer as a 3D printer.
The real magic of an inkjet printer is the print head. A print head doesn’t have a single nozzle but an array of many nozzles. This way, a printer cannot only print one dot at a time, but instead a few lines at a time. These nozzles are much tinier that the nozzles on a 3D printer, and they also are much more complicated to operate.
A 3D printer just uses a stepper motor to push filament into the printhead, where it melts and is then pushed out of a hole.
On an inkjet printer, you need to either rapidly boil the ink, so that a single vapor bubble appears that pushes just a tiny drop of ink on the paper, or you have a tiny piezoelectric transducer that creats a vibration that then pushes out ink.
This is orders of magnitude more difficult than a 3D printer, and much tinier. You won’t be DIYing a working 2D printer from scratch, while that isn’t all that hard for a 3D printer. With access to a decent toolshop, you can make all relevant parts of a 3D printer. The same is not true for 2D printers.
To rephrase your question: Why is it that so many people build DIY desktop PCs, but nobody is making a DIY flagship smartphone? What’s the difference?
Basically everything.
Man, your explanation is way better than mine, kudos! :D
TIL inkjet printer is very complicated compared to 3d printer
I always think paper printer is very easy to make (well since so many paper printers out there compared to 3d printers)Yeah, that’s more due to need than due to technical difficulty.
Even in 2024 it’s still common that you have to print out documents to sign them or tickets for some event or something like that. All these (quite relevant) use cases just don’t work if you don’t have a 2D printer.
As much as I like my 3D printer, and as much as I recommend everyone to have one, is not nearly as necessary.
In regards to how difficult they are to make, consider the price.
2D printers have an advantage due to their much higher sales numbers (economy of scale) and they are subsidized by the manufacturer selling expensive ink. And still, a half-decent inkjet costs €100 or more, and a color laser easily costs €300 or more.
3D printers usually have much lower sales numbers and people usually buy 3rd party filament, so the printer needs to be expensive enough to generate money for the manufacturer. And still you can get a decent Ender 3 for as low as €150.
Pen plotters are also much slower than inkjet printers, can’t effectively mix inks for composite colors, and are significantly lower resolution than any other 2D print technology. Pen plotters existed before ink or laser jet, they lost their market share for good reasons.
If such a thing exists (DIY paper printers), I would like to know more, because the level of frustration I have with all the major printer mfrs I’ve used, is too damn high.
Bonus points if it’s a laser printer, extra bonus points if the components for the printer can be 3D printed (with obvious exceptions).
I just want a good, wired, network printer for everyday crap that I can use once in a blue moon for stupid documents that someone wants me to print, sign, scan and send back to them because they haven’t figured out how to do e-signatures yet… And the odd extra thing I need to print. Every time I print it seems like I need to reinstall the printer or update something to make it work. I buy laser printers so the ink doesn’t dry out before I can use it. The whole thing is so damned frustrating. Also, bluntly, unless you’re doing photo work, never buy an inkjet. They’re cheap, and there’s a reason they’re cheap. Inkjet has better color representation, so photo printers should probably be inkjet, for everything else, do yourself a favor and buy a laser printer. Toner lasts much, much, longer.
An open source printer, you say? Interesting idea
Well, you can buy rubber stamps?
Super agree, paper printers are a scam imo
You can buy a DIY opensource 3D printer that can print on paper by putting a pen where the extruder is and use some open source software to convert text in GCODE.
https://github.com/boy1dr/3DWriter https://indestructables.private.coffee/Turn-Your-3D-Printer-Into-a-Plotter/
For anyone searching for models:
- dasharo.com coreboot (novacustom, 3mdeb, system76)
- mrchromebox.dev
- starlabs.com
- libreboot.org for old hardware but with updates
- Framework laptops have open source
firmwareBIOS. - The Talos II workstation from raptor computers (using an IBM power9 processor) is entirely open source including now its network card but that’s a $10,000 computer
- You can make a Chromebook fully open source but it takes a little work
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including now its network card
You can make a Chromebook fully open source
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Framework laptops do not have open course firmware.
They license their UEFI from Insyde. They have an open source EC, which, while it accomplishes similar things is not the firmware.
What’s an EC?
It’s the embedded controller. It sits on top of the UEFI and coordinates laptop hardware behaviors between the UEFI and the individual components.
It controls things like “is lid sensor closed? Suspend”.
Whereas the UEFI + OS actually handles the suspend.
embedded controller. it does some stuff and things
The tallos II has closed source firmware for the nvme storage controller, but it is the best option on the market right now if you can afford the upfront cost.
Thats odd. The presentation claimed only the network controller was closed, until their work
It might have been the blackbird board that was fully open
- Framework laptops have open source
Vote with your wallet 👍
Instructions unclear, bricked my laptop after flashing libreboot. Send help.
Although It’s less about guns and more about paying/donating to projects on GPL. If you don’t know where to donate, start with Firefox. Every £ matters
How exactly are you donating to Firefox? Mozilla foundation is not Firefox and Firefox is unlikely to see any money you give to Mozilla.
Mozilla do spend a lot of money on software development, 220 million last year, out of total expenses of 425 million which came from a taking of 593 million of which 81% comes from Google.
They need to introduce bounty system so people can give money for specific features.
As far as I’m concerned they only produce two useful pieces of software: Firefox and Thunderbird. The rest of the money is going into a black hole.
The rest of the money goes into fighting for software freedom, developing infrastructure tools and other things they’re very open about.
Personally I don’t donate because I prefer to help small open source efforts where a little money makes a big difference, especially protects which I believe could help emerging open source communities grow or inspire more cc content. I’m glad Mozilla exist and that they get so much money from Google and donations
Every pound counts? That’s what she said
I was going to but I have no £
What about ¥?
I don’t
gil?
If I sell all my megalixers I’ve never used I could probably keep Firefox funded for years.
Stanley nickels?
What about turkish lira?
Nope, sorry mate
For preserving GPL let me suggest donating to Software Freedom Conservancy which is directly related to fighting abuses of open source / free software / libre software licences.
I’m out of the loop. Is this about phones?
It’s about everything. Computers, phones, the computer that makes your car work. Every bit of electronics that boots - that probably includes your smoke detector and oven
I’m running coreboot on my machine. What’s your excuse?
My hardware isn’t supported
Fair 'nuf :(
Time for a pr
I am using phone
That’s not an excuse. Go get yourself a T420!
We neeeeeeeeeed GPL licensed firmware phones and other devices
Btw buy me a T420
That is true… Phone ecosystem sucks for this reason.
Sadly, I cannot buy you a T420 without having you (and your cartel operation) being exposed.
Send the T420 via darkweb i’ll download it
My laptop (well, ships in Q2, so I can’t do a damn thing yet anyway) doesn’t support libreboot (but I believe they’re working on it?) Framework. I was more focused on the upgradability/fixibility of the hardware, because I’m tired of the typical hardware and it’s anti-consumer features. Hopefully an option soon exists for the AMD 7 (or whatever the hell processor I chose for the 16.)
Oh man, I’ve been eyeing that for a while! I’m hoping they can get that out of the way soon!
Removed by mod
How about no
Death to the MPLA!
Did anyone else read this in Macho Man Randy Savage’s voice in your head?
OH YEAH!!!
Already ahead of you and installed Linux and around 2400 packages for the software I use
I hear Raptor Computing is working on a nextgen workstation… more than just “open”. Iirc, someone even ported coreboot to one of their machines.
DEATH TO THE MPLA
