Aisha was likely 9-10 when she had sex with Mohammed. That’s not me, that’s plenty of Muslim scholars. It likely isn’t a coincidence that child marriage is prevalent in the Musim world to this day.
Of course, like most religions, people simply ignore the bits or facts they don’t agree with even if they claim to be literalists. That’s just religion. Different flavour, same soda. Obviously you won’t agree with me on that, but we don’t need to agree on that. Just tolerate that different views on this exist.
What should be obvious, is that it would be entirely unfair to judge all Muslims by the paedophiles among you, and the higher prevalence of child marriages in current day Islam. I’ll leave that to Christian conservatives.
But it is a bit much when devout Muslims like you then decide to complain about the gays and claim they’re paedophiles. Sure, find gay sex icky, but these are invariably grown men engaging in consensual sex, from a community that has repeatedly denounced paedophilia, which if anything is far less deviant than you like to imagine. Rich gay businessmen aren’t out there marrying 9 year old cousins.
Women back then were more mature at a younger age
So you’re saying that it didn’t happen, but if it did she was ‘mature for her age’.
When you claim to hate gay people because they’re paedophiles, without evidence of this being prevalent, but then make excuses for paedophilia and rampant child marriage within your own community, it becomes pretty obvious you hate gay people because they’re gay and don’t actually care about age inappropriate relationships.
Obviously, this is going to annoy you, so we’ll leave it at that.
But do try to remember that tolerance goes two ways.
Never once denied Aisha’s (May Allah be pleased with) age that she was 9 years old when Muhammad (ﷺ) consummated the marriage. I’m not picking and choosing. I’m saying at 9 years old she was an adult because of her circumstances. There is no blanket age for what an adult is. If a person reaches puberty then by Islamic standards they are an adult.
I’m using the pedophile arguments against you because by your standards anyone under the age of 18 is a child. Not because I necessary believe that.
You’re right, my distain towards gay people that promote their gay nature to the public is because it goes against the Quran. If a Muslim is gay for example, it is a test from Allah for them to keep these desires to themselves and seek help through therapy or asking Allah to keep them steadfast.
You might say that it is unfair because straight Muslims can fulfil their desires through marriage but gay Muslims can’t. My response to that is that Allah tests different people with different tests. A rich person can be tested with their wealth and a poor person can be tested with poverty. The wealthy person must use their to give charity and use it in the cause of Allah. The poor person must bear patience with the poverty they face. Same way the gay person must control these desires and can have more time to worship Allah whereas the straight person must bear the responsibility of taking care of the family.
If you actually invest time in researching the different religions, you’ll realize that the only religion with a perserved divine book is Islam. If you want to discuss more about that, I’m happy to give more info as to why. So no, not all religons are the same with different flavors just because on the surface it looks that way.
Aisha was likely 9-10 when she had sex with Mohammed. That’s not me, that’s plenty of Muslim scholars. It likely isn’t a coincidence that child marriage is prevalent in the Musim world to this day.
Of course, like most religions, people simply ignore the bits or facts they don’t agree with even if they claim to be literalists. That’s just religion. Different flavour, same soda. Obviously you won’t agree with me on that, but we don’t need to agree on that. Just tolerate that different views on this exist.
What should be obvious, is that it would be entirely unfair to judge all Muslims by the paedophiles among you, and the higher prevalence of child marriages in current day Islam. I’ll leave that to Christian conservatives.
But it is a bit much when devout Muslims like you then decide to complain about the gays and claim they’re paedophiles. Sure, find gay sex icky, but these are invariably grown men engaging in consensual sex, from a community that has repeatedly denounced paedophilia, which if anything is far less deviant than you like to imagine. Rich gay businessmen aren’t out there marrying 9 year old cousins.
So you’re saying that it didn’t happen, but if it did she was ‘mature for her age’.
When you claim to hate gay people because they’re paedophiles, without evidence of this being prevalent, but then make excuses for paedophilia and rampant child marriage within your own community, it becomes pretty obvious you hate gay people because they’re gay and don’t actually care about age inappropriate relationships.
Obviously, this is going to annoy you, so we’ll leave it at that.
But do try to remember that tolerance goes two ways.
Never once denied Aisha’s (May Allah be pleased with) age that she was 9 years old when Muhammad (ﷺ) consummated the marriage. I’m not picking and choosing. I’m saying at 9 years old she was an adult because of her circumstances. There is no blanket age for what an adult is. If a person reaches puberty then by Islamic standards they are an adult.
I’m using the pedophile arguments against you because by your standards anyone under the age of 18 is a child. Not because I necessary believe that.
You’re right, my distain towards gay people that promote their gay nature to the public is because it goes against the Quran. If a Muslim is gay for example, it is a test from Allah for them to keep these desires to themselves and seek help through therapy or asking Allah to keep them steadfast.
You might say that it is unfair because straight Muslims can fulfil their desires through marriage but gay Muslims can’t. My response to that is that Allah tests different people with different tests. A rich person can be tested with their wealth and a poor person can be tested with poverty. The wealthy person must use their to give charity and use it in the cause of Allah. The poor person must bear patience with the poverty they face. Same way the gay person must control these desires and can have more time to worship Allah whereas the straight person must bear the responsibility of taking care of the family.
If you actually invest time in researching the different religions, you’ll realize that the only religion with a perserved divine book is Islam. If you want to discuss more about that, I’m happy to give more info as to why. So no, not all religons are the same with different flavors just because on the surface it looks that way.