When I was on Reddit I felt like my opinion didn’t matter. But here it just feels more open and free.

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    Every comment I would make on Reddit seemed to get challenged by someone looking to start a long-winded argument as they were, in fact, the main character of the universe.

    I like it here because so far, people are nice. It’s like the first day of high school and everyone just wants to be friends and meet people.

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        It’s like a little trophy or a symbol of validity to some people. You’d see big edits addressing downvoted as if people got personally hit in the head with them.

        I don’t blame people though because viscerally, these things are little tokens of “approval” by others at large.

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          Reddit gamified participation, and the result was an addiction to trying to say things that people would click the updoot for. Here, the comment / post score is used purely to determine the relevance and value of the individual comments and posts. I think the result is clear: people feel less compelled to post the meme, the shitpost, the expected something and are more likely to express a thought they have, or think is valuable to the conversation.

          The result is less stuff, but the stuff is more nuanced, interesting, and engaging (even if the engagement metrics are lower). It’s also a less stressful environment to interact with, and is just kinda all around better since no one is trying to profit

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            God, I love this place. Instead of having to navigate through a mob of idiots to express an opinion or have a discussion, it’s simply informed, quality discussion from top to bottom. What a good feeling, almost gives me hope for humanity

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              Cherish it now haha. If this place ever gets a lot more popular, you’ll start seeing all sorts of dumb takes and behaviours again 🤪

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                That’s why I’m feeling a lot better about the steady rate of growth here. At first I just wanted to get everyone over from reddit ASAP, now I’m like okay, I could get used to the small town vibes with a bunch of cool people.

                It’s going to be an amazing journey as this place continues to grow. Just remember to laugh at the inevitable drama and cry at the bad memes. Never the other way around 🙃

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                  Small town vibes is exactly how I’d put it haha. I tend to recognize a few posters here and there. Just like at my town’s post office 😂

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          Votes have a bandwagon effect, both up and down votes. Sometimes it just felt like arguing with an army of mute downvoting zombies; no reply, just downvotes. I completely understand some communities on Lemmy disabling downvotes, even if that means there is no mora a “controversial” vote.

          My only fear is that as Lemmy gets bigger, the same botting, brigading and mindless bandwagoning, will also come here.

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      I feel like your characterization of Reddit users as long-winded and contrarian is inaccurate and frankly offensive. Let me write you several paragraphs about why you’re wrong, sprinkled with thinly veiled personal insults and outright harsh commentary about you as a person.

      Sorry, just trying to make it feel like our old home :)

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        Lmao this was good. You forgot to comb through my post history to see if you can make your comment even more hard-hitting by referencing a personal problem I have that was highlighted in a post or comment from 6 months ago 🤪

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          They’re here. I got banned from no stupid questions for asking in the comments why an incredibly small group of people gets to define how I use language.

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              If I remember correctly I was arguing that “gender assigned at birth” already had a word for it and it was sex. Somebody asked about intersex people. I said I didn’t see the point in altering my language for such a vanishingly small group. Then a week later the powermod decided to look through my comments and came to the conclusion that I was breaking “rule 7” which is some vague shit about being nice or something. That was one of the things that made me abandon lemmy.world. Old reddit mindset. I left reddit 8 years ago because of that crap and never went back.

              I say powermod because they have a over a dozen subs started basically all mirroring reddit ones.

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                Ya you absolutely deserved to catch flack for that.

                You are saying that gender is the same as sex and they’re categorically different things. It’s very easy to learn the difference so if you insist on arguing against facts, you’re damn right people are going to butt against you.

                You’re arguing against treating people with kindness by pointing to the fact that they’re a minority. Lmao that’s the definition of a bigot.

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                  If I’m having a conversation with an intersex person that actually cares, which with their prevalence I doubt it will ever happen, I will respect them. Why should I have to change the language I use outside of such a rare situation? We have terms like Biological Sex which mean something, and then we have bullshit like “gender assigned at birth” which on purpose mean nothing. Stop trying to make language intentionally tiring.

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        I completely agree with you. Now defend your point, which I’ve definitely attacked by replying. 🤺

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      As the antagonist of this thread, I would have to disagree with this statement. I was, initially, very dismayed to see that no one had taken issue with this comment. Alas, here I am, to set things right. Being that most online communities seem to revolve around my person, I thought that I’d share these thoughts that so many of you had been patiently awaiting.

      No but fr, huge fan of these communities. The voices that search out an argument don’t seem to gain quite as much traction on fedi (yet, at least). Probably due to them having a larger overall audience on reddit to feel validated by. Hopefully it stays that way!

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        As the antagonist of this thread, I would have to disagree with this statement. I was, initially, very dismayed to see that no one had taken issue with this comment. Alas, here I am, to set things right. Being that most online communities seem to revolve around my person, I thought that I’d share these thoughts that so many of you had been patiently awaiting.

        This killed me 🤣

        Another big difference is the lack of vote fuzzing. It’s more obvious when people are abusing the upvote/downvote function, and it feels more meaningful when you know each vote directly represents a real person.

        On kbin you can even see publicly which user made each vote, but idk if that functionality is planned or possible on Lemmy. It’s quite useful for combating brigading.

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      I like I can say the words Tiannamen and Square and not feel like bots are out to get me 🙂

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        The misinfo on Reddit is wild. Just shows people don’t understand federation and how the views of one instances’ moderators doesn’t impact what people can say or do on other instances.

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    Deleted My reddit account , tried all of the fediverse before but always went back to propriety for same reason as anyone else. Everyone is there. With the Reddit exodus I feel this will get the push it needs

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    I am because I feel it’s great to be a part of the growing numbers of the platform. Everything is a bit rough around the edges and it gives it a ‘far west’ feel

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    Definitely.

    For example, I’ve just written and posted a comment in this very thread. That’s more than I’d ever do in a thread like this on Reddit.

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    I am definitely more active on here than Reddit. I’ve had the same experience as you but I’m tired of gawking at those know it all cockbags. They’ll be here at some point but yeah, it’s a nice community here.

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    I want to comment more but I often don’t have much to say. I’ve made it a goal to comment more though, because I want to see this platform succeed.

    I love the enthusiasm in this thread but if we the mass migration of reddit users that I am hoping for, the toxicity and annoying reddit behaviors are probably coming along with them. I am hopeful that this place will at least stay much more open and free.

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      Toxicity is good it encourages people to argue which is more content for Lemmy. I’ve only recently joined but I want to make an active attempt to be toxic and spark engagement.

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        Stupidest shit I’ve ever heard. The goal should be to create a more positive environment that encourages real discussion instead of the toxic dumpster fire that reddit has become. Just engage positively instead. If you have something interesting to say people will respond and that will provide content for Lemmy.

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    Gonna have to buck the trend and say, no.

    I had good experiences on Reddit, I was active in a few different communities and had good engagement without the ‘avalanche of toxic responses’ some people here are describing.

    I’m leaving Reddit due to the changes at the top, not because of problems at the grass roots.

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      Same here. Of course there was always the occasional troll looking for a fight, but mostly acceptable to pleasant interactions.

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      The grass roots are also wilted, though. All communites decline, unless painstakingly maintained. Not many want to keep doing that on a proprietary, hostile platform. So the overall degeneration is obvious.

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    Yes. Got to the point on reddit where I almost never commented because of the ackshually types.

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      Agree. Also i submit a lot more from my feeds. Stopped doing that on reddit because Mods would just constantly remove things for inane rules. Like “no Apple articles unless its sunday” type stuff…

      Still going to stick to tech and space feeds and steer clear of op-eds and anything that could be perceived as political.

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        Oh man, so many arbitrary Byzantine rules on subs like that. “The word count of replies must be a prime number.”

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    Been trying to go out of my way to be more active on here. Help the platform grow ya know?

    I usually lurk for months at a time then comment once or twice a year on any forum.

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    I feel like I can contribute more since the communities are smaller, but I haven’t had much of value to say. Haven’t really found my niche yet like I had on Reddit.

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    Current Lemmy feels a lot more like early reddit. At the same time I don’t think it has hit its Eternal September moment. The site is still primarily the domain of early adopters and people who care about the community.

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    I’m definitely trying to be, which isn’t difficult considering that my last comment there was a year ago, and I only made 5 comments that year.

    I’d been on reddit for 11 years, and I was more active back then, but I sort of started to just lurk more as time went by, probably because there was an ocean of comments in every post