Picture shows a pride parade. A group of people are carrying a banner that says “LOCKHEED MARTIN” over a rainbow graphic.

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    Weapons can be used for liberation or oppression at the same time. Lockheed doesn’t get to say who they sell to.

    Yes, you’ve identified the problem.

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          So only the American government can sell Lockheed martin arms? Then the corporation is no longer liable for any harm their weapons cause since they have no power or agency in how they are used. Are you really sure you know your position here?

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            Wow. I genuinely don’t know how you managed to come up with that, it’s genuinely impressive.

            Try: “Manufacturing weapons of war for profit when you can’t guarantee that they won’t end up in the wrong hands is unethical and war profiteering corporations should not exist.”

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              Wow. It is more unethical to not manufacture weapons leaving your society completely defenseless. Don’t know what planet you live on , but bad people exist and they seek to do harm and must be stopped with weapons. You can’t tell them to go away with rainbows and lollipops like you seem to think.

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                Don’t know what planet you live on , but bad people exist

                And Lockheed Martin is giving them weapons, yes.

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                  So democracy is to blame? Get the fuck off your high horse. Is absolute idealism is unrealistic and frankly childish. Go graduate college and get back to me.

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                    So democracy is to blame?

                    Again, absolutely bizarre takes. Just incredible how completely unrelated these responses are to anything I’m saying or any coherent line of thought.

                    You’re treating it as if Lockheed Martin just, inherently ought to exist, that it would be impossible for them not to exist. They do not.

                    Since you seem to be struggling to understand how that could possibly be, I’ll tell you: nationalization. The government should seize control of all assets belonging to Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, and Boeing (ideally, the CEOs and upper management should be deported to Afghanistan to face justice), no one should be able to make a profit from it (aside from wages), they should not be able to have lobbyists, and there should be no ability to go from war profiteer to policy maker deciding what wars to start or vice versa.

                    But if you want to lick the boots of warmongers who cause bloodshed for the sake of corporate profits, I guess I can’t stop you. But what I can say is that, as a queer person, I completely reject their performative “support” and have no desire to be associated with them in any way, and that they can take their pride flags and shove them up their ass.