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    In difference to ticktock thats temu shit isn’t addictive or a propaganda Mashine.

    But yes, both should be banned in the western world, but for different reasons.

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      I don’t think either should be banned. We just need data protection laws. The government going after single companies sets a dangerous precedent.

      What the EU did with some of their compliance laws that targeted Google and Apple was set a number of users, so it wasn’t necessarily targeting a single or set company, as it applied to future companies too.

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      Do you mean that if something isn’t propaganda or addictive it can steal and spy to its heart’s content?

      Also, there is a lot of propaganda and addictive things, especially from Meta, that seems to be okay 🤔

      Edit: poor reading skills

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        Do you mean that if something isn’t propaganda or addictive it can steal and spy to its heart’s content?

        That is the opposite of what i said.

        Also, there is a lot of propaganda and addictive things, especially from Meta, that seems to be okay 🤔

        Yes but meta isn’t the Chinese government ordering propaganda. Meta definitely has problems but those problems are fixable, ticktock on the other hand will not follow such laws and since it’s the Chinese governments sock puppet they will definitely fight it.

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          That is the opposite of what i said.

          Yeah, I failed at reading this time

          Regarding the law abiding behaviour of Meta, well I don’t have much trust in that. But I’d say that having a court decision not followed looks like a better reason for a ban then voting for that in advance just in case

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            Well, meta can be prosecuted in difference to ticktock. So i wouldn’t trust them either, but as seen with ECJ cases prosecution is definitely possible.

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        The tiktok ban isn’t even happening until after the election, and the Biden campaign says they will be staying on tiktok until then.

        But somehow this isn’t hypocritical according to libs because reasons. I took so much psychic damage in the thread about it on /r/politics

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        I like that truth social exists, terrible people quarantine themselves there and I’m sure it provides a convenient place to monitor extremists.

        Iirc, Tik Tok can persist, just bytedance has to sell their share.

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    Where do I buy this credit card information? fedposting

    Edit: fun fact American credit cards are the most sought after on dark web markets because of low security. All you need is the number and details on the card. In other countries you’ll get a code on sms or phone app to verify (3D Secure).

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      It’s a pretty simple process. First, you apply for a credit card from a bank. It helps if you have a good credit score but even if you don’t you can get a basic one. Then you start spending very small amounts on it. Doesn’t matter the amount, a few dollars every month and make sure you pay that bill on time. In the meantime, get a college degree, followed by some well paying job. Keep paying that monthly credit card bill on time though, and all your other bills. And then, a few years down the line from your first credit card, you’ll be able to get a few more with your good credit score. Hell, they’ll even send you free ones in the mail. Suddenly, you’ll have all the credit card numbers you’ll ever need. Banks hate this one simple trick!

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    Facebook, Instagram, YouTube all in the corner doing the exact same thing just on American soil

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    Temu is not nearly as interesting for US oligarchs as TikTok. If they manage to steal TikTok, the tech oligarchs just have to run another app but if they steal Temu they suddenly have to deal with the logistics of shipping dirt cheap physical products to people.

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      Or you know the fact that TEMU is a shitty fucking marketplace while Tiktok is a social media which can have much more influence on people which is what the government is accusing them of exploiting

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    A meme created by the rare person that has never used an e-commerce website.

    You give companies your name, address, phone number, and credit card number when you shop online.

    This has been a friendly PSA for the racist 6-year-old that made this meme.

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    The only explanation that makes sense to me is that TikTok is being targeted because it’s teaching people to criticize their governments. It’s a source of information that isn’t domestically controlled and that’s dangerous. It’s where younger generations gather to protest and share news they don’t see on Fox News or The New York Times. Coverage of the the bill don’t mention changing TikTok’s short-form format or restricting access to user’s data - it’s about either moving the corporation into the US hands or killing it’s influence. Many experts and some politicians argue it’s an attack on free speech and unconstitutional.

    Arguments about mental health and data safety fall completely flat for me when so many other entities are left alone in spite of the same problems. Many social media platforms, ads, video games, etc. are deliberately designed to be addictive and give a “quick fix” that can harm mental health. Big companies like Google and Facebook/Meta have a business model of collecting data and “sharing” it with others. Governments collect data without protections like warrants all the time, and that includes the US. If mental health, privacy, and data safety were really the issues that motivated lawmakers we’d be seeing much more general protections (like in the EU) as opposed to targeting one company.

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      Or, and I know this sounds crazy so bear with me, TikTok has almost 200 million US users and it’s owned by a hostile authoritarian regime seeking to dismantle any vestige of democracy around the globe.

      Just spitballing here.

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        Oh shit was it Byte dance that spread RW propaganda and radicalized a generation of young men in support of one political candidate?

        Oh no that was Meta (fb at the time).

        How about a company disproportionately allowing one specific sub to violate content and user policies for months, years before acting, effectively allowing Russian propaganda bots to build a grassroots movement from what strated as a parody sub? (r/thedonald, Reddit).

        Google has done the same thing via YT, effectively driving specific demographics to right wing conspiracy 🥜 job. At the same time they suppress leftist viewpoints and availability if leftist content.

        Big tech wants RW fascism in the US.

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    Yes, but Tiktok is worth billions. The law also won’t ban it unless it’s sold sold to an American company.

    I’m on the conspiracy that Congress reps already have stocks in the companies that would bid for Tiktok, and they’re trying to force a sale.

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    Amazon has also been stealing people’s information and credit card numbers. eBay, instacart, even stores like Walmart and target. We have to stop this epidemic of people giving their addresses and paying online in exchange for items being delivered to their houses.

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    Temu doesn’t give information the government doesn’t want you to see.

    Ironically the us government banning TikTok is pretty much what China does with Western media iirc. So like. China bad, but we be like China?