• Telorand
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    “He’s stronger than Biden.” “He’s weaker than his Republican opponents (none of whom could beat Biden).” “He’s strong.” “He’s weak.”

    FFS, make up your mind. This is why these polls don’t fucking mean shit.

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      Fascism requires that you be strong enough to defend against your foes, while the foes have the power to keep you down.

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        That’s true, but this isn’t Fascism. This is pollsters coming to wildly different conclusions, hence my frustration at both the disparate polls and polling this far out from the election.

        Plus, Trump gets a defacto 30% of the GOP vote, because that’s how many of them are his cultists. There is no fucking way he’s weaker than his Republican challengers.

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        Who’s promoting fascism here?? The … news agencies on behalf of Democrats? Just because different dumb news polls turn up different doesn’t magically equal the simultaneously strong/weak fascism trope. Stop using “fascism” as the response to everything. It doesn’t even make sense here.

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            I think they’re saying that the previous person, who quoted the enemy is both strong and weak thing about media reporting on Trump’s polling, was not pointing it at the correct people, because a dispirate group of journalists/pollsters are portraying Trump as both strong and weak. Confused articles disagreeing with each other on the rocking boat that is polls a full year out does not a fascism make, is the point.

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              The article makes it pretty clear that the pollster himself is disagreeing with himself:

              Luntz, who has provided polling and strategy for a number of high-profile Republicans over the years, suggested during a Tuesday interview on CNBC’s Squawk Box that Trump’s position in the general election polls was due to Biden being even weaker, arguing that candidates polling far behind Trump in GOP primary polls would do better against Biden.

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          GOP pollster. Read the article. It’s propaganda. (Not the article itself, but the pollster is generating propaganda.)