• RapidcreekOP
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    You think that Israel should ignore that a thousand of their citizens were slaughtered?

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      I wonder what could have provoked an attack like. Perhaps decades of oppressive occupation. Constantly escalating violence isn’t going to fix this. But Israel is the side that can choose to end it by ending apartheid. All the imprisoned can do to improve their situation is try to fight out of it.

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        This is one of those justification posts. To which I always respond that there is no justification for the various atrocities committed by Hamas. To which you respond with something about Israeli oppression. To which I respond that it still doesn’t justify the vile and nasty nature of Hamas action and if your moral compass says it does I feel sorry for you. Then I slowly get bored with your inane ideology. Good. So that’s it.

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          So you agree that both sides are doing terrible things and there are no good guys in this situation? Just innocents caught in the middle.

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      They’ve killed almost 1000 in Gaza now. Are you suggesting hamas shouldn’t ignore that? When does it end.

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        It is war. It ends when one side gives up or is destroyed.

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          Either side giving up will be genocide. Or destroyed, which is again genocide.

          So essentially your idea of resolution is genocide.

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                WWII ended with one side surrendering. There was quite a lot of slaughter before that happened.

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                  Right but if one side surrenders here they’ll lose their land and be destroyed. They aren’t similar.

                  If hamas get Israel the Jewish population is fucked. Look at what’s happening now when they crossed the border. That wasn’t war it was slaughter of civilians.

                  If Israel get Gaza the Palestinian population is fucked. Look at the westbank. That is isn’t war either.

                  It’s not the same as any war. It’s 100 years of religious / racial conflict.

                  The only end is an agreement or genocide. And 100 years have shown an agreement is unlikely.

                  They came over the border a killed 1000 civilians. In retaliation Israel has killed 1000 civilians in air strikes. It’s not war. It’s slaughter.

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                    Its not a war for land, it’s a war for cause. Its not Ukraine.