For context: The thread was about why people hate Hexbear and Lemmygrad instances

  • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    7 months ago

    Those were not on purpose. But were definitely made worse through the actions of dogmatic uneducated authoritarians much like capitalism. However, the fact that it happened to leninists involuntarily doesn’t justify capitalist doing it purposefully.

    • Thorny_Insight@lemm.eeOPEnglish
      9·
      7 months ago

      Holodomor

      …also known as the Great Ukrainian Famine, was a man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine from 1932 to 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians.

      • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        7 months ago

        It wasn’t man-made lol. There were famines going on in the United States too. Dust bowl anyone? And I said they exacerbated it. You simply proved my own point for me and failed to state your case.

        Let me give you some advice on debating or trying to discuss things. You should refrain from it.

        • Shiggles@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          9·
          7 months ago

          Holy shit you tankies are on so much copium it’s hilarious.

          The dust bowl and the holodomor did not, in fact, coincide. They occured in seperate years, for separate reasons, and shockingly you seem to have excluded the drastically lower death rates of the dust bowl and the american great depression as a whole? It was terrible and caused great unnecessary suffering, but there’s no parallel to the intentional deaths of millions.

          Like come on, the Bengal famine is RIGHT THERE for you to make some sort attempt at a valid argument, but you just have to go “AMERIKA BAD >:(“ every two milliseconds.

          Both the Bengal Famine and the Holodomor have at least one major fact in common. You’d have to be a complete idiot to be either the British or Soviet government and not realize your response will lead to the deaths of millions. I don’t think Churchill or the brits were idiots, and as undeniably terrible as Stalin was I don’t think the inevitable death of millions of ukranians was something he could overlook either.

          You mouth breathers always act so goddamn smug about the utter nonsense spewing out of your ass.

          • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
            8·
            7 months ago

            Lol no wrong like confidently wrong. I’m further from a tankie than you are. In fact, it’s not possible to get much farther from tankie than someone like myself. I’m simply pointing out your ignorant bullshit. To which you can’t defend. I’d be incensed. But there’s no point. And I’m used to kiddies like yourself. Learning a new term like tanky and then just going crazy using it against everyone you don’t like.

            I literally pointed out that they made their part of the GLOBAL famine worse. Promoting and listening to Trofim Lysenko’s crackpot theories. I’m not defending them. Just calling your bs strawman out. And again I reiterate letting people starve because it’s more profitable, is far more damning than ignorant leninists being stupid.

            • Globulart@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              7 months ago

              I see so many of these attitudes (whether correct or not. I’m not here to argue) and it just makes Lemmy an awful place to try and enjoy my free time.

              You guys make reddit look palatable, let that sink in…

              • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
                3·
                7 months ago

                Should I call you a fascist and see how friendly you are? I don’t think you are. And I’m not going to. But when someone pulls stupid shit like that. It doesn’t actually contribute in anyway towards any sort of civil debate. And funny that your admonishing me and not him as well. Also, extra funny. Because that sort of shit is way worse on Reddit. Sooooooooo okay.

                • Globulart@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  7 months ago

                  Yeah mate go nuts, I’ve been called plenty worse just today and been amused by it.

                  I am talking to both of you, your comment just happened to be the last in the chain.

                  I read the argument and thought “jesus fuck this place is basically unbearable”.

                  Honestly I’ve seen plenty worse on reddit too, but also SO much better. There are obviously loads more users so the worst is worse than the worst here, and the best is better than the best here. The point I’m making is that the average interaction here is worse than reddit, that famously circlejerky echo chamber hivemind. Yet if I don’t fit the mould of a lemmy user it seems I’m a villain 80% of the time so that description could just as validly be levelled at lemmy too.

                  An argument descends to ad-hominem attacks so unbelievably fast so unbelievably frequently. It really is no surprise users are dropping like flies at the moment and I feel I might be another one soon enough.

                  Not that you care, I hope you have a nice day regardless, take care :) x

                  • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    3·
                    7 months ago

                    Like I said. I’m not here to defend leninists. I disagree with them vehemently. I disagree with all authoritarians vehemently. They absolutely tend to dive into adhominems immediately in many instances. Not always, but far too often. It’s kind of what you do when you can’t actually defend your viewpoints. Doesn’t really bother me though. I’m used to it from all over. As a social-libertarian I get called a fascist by many leninists, and a Leninist/tankie by fascists.

                    For myself though things have been far better over here than they ever were on Reddit. Perhaps that’s because of my more natural left lean? That was always something viewed as negative on a site like Reddit.