• be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social
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    8 months ago

    Ah yes, the epidemic of van killings we all suffer from.

    No one claims gun restrictions are going to stop every last murder.

    And if folks were killing each other with Vans several times a week, you can bet there would be some Van Control legislation passed in a hot minute.

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      8 months ago

      That’s not the point at all. The point is that there are mentally ill people who want to kill and they’ll find a way. We’ve got a record number of people that are seemingly in this category as of late.

      In prior decades mass shootings like this were not issues like they are today, the first AR-15s were available in the late 1950s. You can find “mass shootings” going back into the start of the 20th century, but they’re not the same mass shootings we’re seeing today. They’re much more targeted violence.

      Now… It’s “I’m going to kill you because you’re at Walmart(?)”

      Keep in mind the US has roughly 10x the population. If we want to do an apples oranges comparison of the two countries … that’s potentially 10 van incidents in the US in place of mass shootings.

      But that’s not a fair comparison either because Canada has an accessible health care system.

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        8 months ago

        If your argument is we need to address mental health, I’m not going to argue with you there. But guess which party in the US is described by all four of these bullet points:

        • gutted our mental health infrastructure

        • Consistently votes down legislation to fund investment in mental health infrastructure

        • Consistently opposes any measures to implement Red Flag laws or other attempts to make it harder to own guns

        • Consistently deflects to mental health being the problem whenever we have more people die

        While they are refusing to budge on either of the two middle bullet points, people are just dying.

        So I have little sympathy for folks who defend guns with the premise that mental health is the real problem. Fine, let’s say it is, doesn’t matter because you are preventing us as a nation from addressing either of those issues.

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          8 months ago

          I have voted a pretty much straight blue ticket in all elections since 2016. I also have friends that guns are a very important issue for though, and I don’t think the Democratic party is getting anywhere being the “party out to get the guns.”