So far my list includes Comcast, EA, and Nestle. Tell me yours, and I’ll help out.

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    For fucks sake.

    I clearly said I do not like musk. I even went as far as saying I hate him but still that’s the first place you went. What the fuck?

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      Some people can’t get over the fact that spaceX is a net positive for humans. Just as Tesla helped push other manufacturers into the world of EVs. They just hate musk to the point that anything he is associated with is bad.

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          Tesla did help get the economy moving faster to EVs which is a net positive.

          I think the way things turned out, anyone could of had that effect Tesla just happened to be in the right place at the right time though.

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          EVs are still going to be the wrong answer to the problem. Sure, more efficient than combustable, but still vastly less efficient than good public transport systems, walkable/bikeable cities, etc. If Elon really wanted to save the planet, he’d be building bullet trains.

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        I don’t get the crazy musk hate. I mostly ignore him but I love that he created the market for electric cars.

        Being an adult means you can look at situations in more complex terms than Elon bad.

        I think he’s a man child. I dislike his attitude like the Wikipedia name change. That’s just douche material.

        I love that he funded Tesla and now we have a viable electric car market.

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          but I love that he created the market for electric cars

          This is like saying OJ Simpson invented Smuckers Uncrustables so he’s not all bad…

          Firstly, it’s not true.

          Secondly, even if it was true, it doesn’t amount to enough to celebrate him.

          Because putting peanut butter and jelly in a sandwich was already a thing that was popular. It just became worse for the environment and more expensive for consumers by individuall packaging them and requiring them to be frozen.

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            It is true. Tesla paved the way.

            Who said celebrate him. I said I’m glad he did it.

            I get you have a binary view of the world. As you mature you may outgrow that but the world is wildly complex.

            We wouldn’t have modern electric cars without musk. It took someone willing to take the risk and the big 3 weren’t doing it.

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              Oh wow…

              I mean I was going off of actual facts that you were wrong…

              But “it is true” completely changed my mind, without Musk buying a company that already existed, we never would have gotten EVs!

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                Who had a large scale consumer product before Tesla?

                Your claim he didn’t create the market. Who had the market before Tesla? Who else had large scale production before Tesla ?

                Who has the largest market share?

                Let’s see you prove your claim.

                Tesla would have folded if Elon was not part of it. People only started to take notice after the success of Tesla.

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      Yeah, but there’s also the cognitive dissonance of you saying SpaceX is fun because they don’t explode…

      But they do explode. Waaaaay more than NASA. Because if a NASA launch goes bad, everyone pays attention. If SpaceX goes bad, people just shrug

      So by your own metrics you just said…

      NASA is better than SpaceX.

      No matter what position I took, it would have disagreed with your comment, because your comment disagrees with itself. Which explains why you think spacex is a positive.