Lately I have found an interest in philosophy. I would love to dig deeper into it when I get the time.
I just started reading Seneca’s Letters from a stoic and plan to read Tao te Ching next, as I always wanted to implement thoughts from Stoicism and Taoism in my life.
I’m aware that, randomly reading different philosophical works won’t give me much in-depth knowledge.
I want to know what’s a good way to go about it and the resources I could use.
How should I start?Why should I start?
This guy philosophies.
One of my favourite anecdote is the guy who was stopped by Greek police for generally looking suspicious, and accused of spying.
“But I’m just here for the conference! I am a philosopher”
“Prove it.”
" … I… well… Hmm… That’s actually… I mean… "
After about half an hour, they let him go.
Haven’t I already started? What is a ‘start’ anyway?
Take a community college introduction course.
It’s only partially good to read the big texts, but it is useless if you don’t know how to understand them in broader connections.
Agree. Turns out school is still a good way to learn things.
This is the first video of ten parts which is an entire Uni level philosophy 101.
It has a good grounding of all the important philosophical works and concepts.
Also I’m shocked the Stanford encyclopaedia of philosophy hasn’t been mentioned:
I’ve heard from philosophy grads that if you just read this entire thing you’ve basically got a philosophy degree.
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Don’t think PhilosophyTube has been mentioned. Abby’s great at taking complex topics and condensing them down to understandable discourse, and the videos are funny to boot. She used to do videos focused on philosophy but now applies that philosophy to popular subjects.
I really dig Philosophize This
Not as in-depth as reading books of course, but it’s very pleasant to listen to and you’ll get a rough overview of who’s who and can then go on to reading something referenced in the podcast that interests you.
Agreed, it was my gateway to philosophy. It’s gives you a good idea of who the most famous philosophers were, and their greatest contributions. It’s very superficial, because you can only say so much in a 20 minutes format, but it’s a great start to find who you want to get into.
I want to thank you so much for suggesting this. I’m almost caught up with all the episodes of the podcast and I’m hooked. I just wish I had the time to follow up each episode with supplementary reading.
P.S: sorry for necroposting !
Hey, glad you like it. Such an awesome series, I really admire that guys ability to grasp and summarize these concepts so aptly.
You might like Michael Sugrue, too then https://youtu.be/7Kuk35VNSEc?si=vVHbLlL_vqglSKAq He also covers literature talking about the philosophy behind those books. Also incredibly good.
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You have already started, my friend
Crash Course by PBS features has an entire Introduction to Philosophy course for free on YouTube
Also, it’s hosted by Hank Green who is a great presenter and very charming. I’ve watched the whole thing a couple of times now. It’s very well explained and never dull.
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If you’re still not very knowledgeable, “Sophie’s World” by Jostein Gaarder is an awesome read. Don’t let the fact that it’s a novel fool you, it’s perfect to understand who’s who across philosophy’s history.
I came here to say this. The Tao of Pooh and the Te of Piglet by Benjamin Hoff are also solid reads.
Study it. Go to a university or community college. There are several offerings for adult education out there. This is ‘the best’ way to do it.
In case you don’t want that: Take another form of couse or read a book that is made specifically to teach about the subject or give a proper introduction.
randomly reading different philosophical works won’t give me much in-depth knowledge.
I’d rate reading different philosophical works much higher than reading modern summaries of philosophical movements.
I’ve rarely found that the generalization of an ancient philosopher brings much into my life, but often found that a specific turn of phrase or idea in their actual writing has offered a great deal.
As for recommendations, my top recommendation is Plato’s The Apology which can be read in an afternoon and does a wonderful job in capturing the value of Socrates’ commitment to rejection of false positives and negatives while also contextualizing the depth of that commitment against social pressures.
After that I’d recommend Leucretius’s The Nature of Things mostly for the fact it’s the only extant work from antiquity to have effectively proposed evolution nearly two millennia before Darwin - a detail that’s frequently overlooked in the modern discussions of Epicureanism which tend to focus on its broader discussion of hedonism in the face of death.
I’d strongly recommend reading the philosophers themselves directly, sampling from each and continuing to read those that resonate with you, taking pearls of wisdom where you find them. And skip those you find insufferable to read.
Start with a survey book or course. Do not start by diving directly into the primary literature.
As far as where to start - that’s really something that should be driven by your interests. You don’t need to start with the Greeks and work your way forward.
I’d say to start with an overview of modern philosophy. It will likely be more familiar to you in terms of the problems and the thinking patterns, and might apply more directly to problems you’re interested in. If you find something that you want to learn more about, turn towards “Intro to X,” and from there branch out into the individual philosophers and their works.
When I started diving in to philosophy I found The Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy to have handy to go “What the fuck did I just read?!” too
Comments be like: start by reading the philosophy topics I like and I am biased towards
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There are a lot of good resources in this thread, but nobody has mentioned the single most important part by far:
actually practice philosophy
Study is worthless if you don’t engage in the practice of philosophy. Find people to debate with, preferably ones who have a formal grounding (and I mean a real debate, where you make reasoned arguments and investigate the truth of a matter, not the bullshit-flinging points game that gets popular online). Write arguments, revise them, give them to people to tear them apart.
The literature is good, but it will only teach you (a) how philosophers approach questions, (b) what arguments and counterarguments have been successful or popular, and © what the big questions are. If you do not practice philosophy, you will never learn philosophy; you will only learn what philosophers have said.
I’d probably start with Socrates-Plato-Aristotle. They weren’t the first, but they basically formed the framework through which we think about philosophy. As you look into specific ideas in that context, you’ll find references to people who disagreed with, reinforced, and transformed their ideas. That’s when I’d start going down rabbit holes one at a time based on interesting historical responses.
Who came before Socrates? I don’t think there’s any historical evidence of his existence other than Plato talking about him simply because he’s so far back…unless you’re talking about beyond Greece.
There are a handful in the West, and several in the East. Thales predates him in Greece, Confucius predates him and provides similar insight to philosophical frameworks in the East, not to mention many others around the world and further in the past. It’s fine to start at one point and then research previous influences later.