- cross-posted to:
- conservative@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- conservative@lemmy.world
California cannot ban gun owners from having detachable magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, a federal judge ruled Friday.
The decision from U.S. District Judge Roger Benitez won’t take effect immediately. California Attorney General Rob Bonta, a Democrat, has already filed a notice to appeal the ruling. The ban is likely to remain in effect while the case is still pending.
This is the second time Benitez has struck down California’s law banning certain types of magazines. The first time he struck it down — way back in 2017 — an appeals court ended up reversing his decision.
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Weird. I’m semi-closeted and get to listen to various people (including coworkers) talk about how they want to murder “fags”. I’ve had people threaten me with violence because they thought I was coming on to them. I’m sitting here watching politicians argue for criminalizing the existence of people like me while armed gangs of uniformed young men march around calling for the death of “degenerates”.
You’re right: I’m probably just paranoid and there’s nothing to worry about.
I haven’t been in a position to need a gun for about 15 years, since I moved out of the poor areas I grew up in. I don’t own any guns and have no intention of buying one.
But I support the rights of gun owners. The 2nd amendment is very clear. Just because I don’t want one, doesn’t mean I can demand other people give theirs up. Or shame them for wanting the government to respect their rights.
I didn’t believe you at first then scrolled down a bit and saw them. Australia banned guns, it was the right thing to do, people who need guns still have them. But not bloody assault rifles. These idiots need to look at themselves in the mirror and realise that they have an obsession with a tool designed on a single purpose, killing and most of which designed for killing humans.
No criminals won’t follow the law but everyone has the potential to break the law or steal guns from someone who does abide by the law. It’s tough but they are killing machines and if you can’t see that you are a f*cking idiot
LOL, in the same sentence even. Pick one.
And are you the arbiter of my needs? Lay eyes on any apex predators this weekend? I did. Camp on a lonely riverbank far from any sort of civil authority? I did. Bet conservatives have plenty to say about what you do or don’t need. Want them to choose for you?
I’m a liberal and have an AR-15 “assault rifle”. If it comes to defending my life, or the life of another, you wish for me to have second best? Are you proposing I bring a “knife” (lesser weapon) to a gunfight? You are aware that conservatives, who have been quite vocal about killing political adversaries, are well armed? Who do you wish to disarm? Citizens that obey the law? Because those are the only folks you’re going to restrict.
Plenty of other reasons to own an AR-15, but we may be headed towards a time when an American Gestapo is real. Will you be able to fight back when they come knocking? If it’s death or concentration camp, I choose fight.
And speaking of my AR, know why I got it? Fellow libs sold it to me! They shit themselves screaming BAN! after Uvalde, figured I’d better get mine in case they got their way. Hell, I had ~30 guns before that, and no interest in an AR. Good job?
While we’re at it, if libs would stop screaming for bans of ridiculous things like magazines, maybe they would win every election in a landslide. I suppose your morals are more important than winning. And that’s a conservative take if I ever heard one.
This man is talking about you:
https://imgur.com/a/pR7CuLA
It was your choice to camp there and potentially interrupt nature by shooting apex predators. Don’t bring up the safety argument if you’re going to do that
I’ve also had a black bear cruise in my dog door, presumably, according to the regional Fish & Wildlife guy, to eat my pet mini pig. Guess I have no business living on the edge of town?
Also, had to shoot a wild boar that was tearing into my property and terrifying my pet. How, pray tell, would you have dealt with that situation? And keep in mind, the civil authorities all told me, “Not our problem, we don’t handle wild pigs, all on you.”
So where exactly am I perfectly safe? In the white-bread suburbia where you live with your parents?
And if nothing else, gun laws always have been wildly racist in their origins and enforcement. Bet you’re A-OK with all that! (Or more probably, don’t know or care.)
You must be real proud of yourself with that one. I live in a rural area on a large property with wild animals, it is possible to hire people to deal with the threat posed by wild animals, forgoing the risk of having firearms in your house
And what tools do those people who deal with the threat use to deal with the threat?
Buddy, you said you are a liberal.
Thank god you’re one of the actually sane ones, but you should know better than anyone that you are not going to argue a liberal down. Liberals tend to be the most set in their political beliefs.
You will not get anywhere with this argument, take my advice and leave. Take my advice, this happens to me all the time.
Have you considered it may be you with the obsession, given your fixation on firearms to the complete neglect of the underlying issues of violence?
Not to interrupt what’s clearly a rational take in rant form, but logically, one should address the killing rather than quibbling about the implement used.
A gun is more dangerous than a knife, killing people is illegal but it doesn’t stop the school shootings in the land of the free. Easy access to guns makes this possible, it’s much harder to mass kill people with a knife
Ah, I see - there are zero differences between the United States and the Aussieland beyond the set of legislative differences regarding firearms and the prevalence of ownership of those firearms.
It’s weird that you double-down on only caring these things happen by firearms, apparently encouraging such by knife.
So guns aren’t part of the problem?
Are firearms what drive people to violent extremes e.g. committing murder, mass or otherwise?
No but they make it easy. How many mass shootings have occurred in Australia since the gun restrictions?
Are mass shootings the only form of homicide?
It’s as if you keep reinforcing that you only care that violence is committed with firearms.
No idea why so many people think gun are easy to obtain. Who told you that? What’s your real-life experience?
I ran with some seriously sketchy people in my youth, hardly ever even saw a gun, let alone one for sale. I’ve bought 40+ guns and only one did not require a background check and a wait. (Good friend had a new baby, hard up for rent, did it as a favor.)
I have school age children, so I can hardly downplay school shootings, but they’re far more rare than the media leads us to believe. Hear about the 4 kids that got smeared off the side of the road in $YourCity yesterday? One thing is national news, the other is not.
Yep, it’s harder to kill people with a knife. Also takes a lot more guts to go “wet” vs. pulling a trigger. No arguments. But if I’m defending myself, or another, I’m not interested in less lethal options.
https://imgur.com/a/pR7CuLA
Oh look, another confidently incorrect Australian putting their piece into a gun debate.
Australia definitely has not banned civilian firearm ownership.
Very debatable. Letting the government have the monopoly on lethal tools is giving a lot of trust to the people a fairly significant portion of the population consider corrupt.
Considering you think civilians can’t have firearms I’d be surprised you even know what people can own in your own country
Americans can’t even own (new) assault rifles. AR15’s are not assault rifles, and civilians do own them in Australia too, ask me how I know.
They definitely do not have a single purpose, anyone who blindly says this has no idea how huge shooting sports are. In most western countries it’s literally the biggest sport participation wise by a huge margin.
Don’t need to do that these days, submachine guns are super easy to manufacture at home, rifles and pistols are just around the corner. You’d probably be surprised how many illegal firearms are already out there, the ADF has lost a lot of stuff over the years too.
You can say that about so many more things than firearms, the end use is what always matters though. I’d be able to argue the opposite when shooting sports are the safest sport to participate in, in Australia anyway.
Nice to not need one, until you do.
You taking about guns, or anecdotal arguments?
When seconds matter be prepared to wait for up to 51 minutes or longer.
https://www.npr.org/2023/01/17/1149455678/why-data-from-15-cities-show-police-response-times-are-taking-longer.
51 years old. I, nor anyone I know has ever been in a situation where a gun would have changed the outcome for the better. And while I know this is anecdotal as well, it’s a clear indicator to me that they’re unnecessary in day-to-day living.
Bit rich of you to ask for facts and then give an antidotal argument when you don’t like my facts. But if you want antidotal evidence yes I have had to use a firearm in self-defense so because of that antidotal experience I would say that we should respect the rights of the citizenry to own firearms.
I guarantee you that that is utter bullshit. And no one you’ve ever known has ever needed one either.
I’ve personally been stalked by, and unexpectedly face-to-face with, a mountain lion while out hunting with my dad.
You can pointlessly quibble about need, but the fact remains that my .357 was the only effective thing between it and I. I was lucky it didn’t want a two-for.
Feel free to continue making such faulty assumptions - it highlights the extent to which you lack the empathy to try and understand other points of view and the imagination to contemplate things outside what you’ve considered.
Bullshit. And even if it were true, hunting isn’t even what’s being questioned here, and you know it. You’ve manufactured what you think is the perfect argument to support guns, but it falls flat.
If you’re 51 you’re the most immature 51-year-old I’ve ever had them misfortune to meet. Reading over your comments over the last day or two I would have to say it’s much more likely that you’re about 24. The entirety of your nuance prose and wit boil down to "Fuck you I’m right and your small and stupid because I said so. ". Is it any wonder you’re so popular in this thread and have so many supporters diving in with you.
It’s “you’re.”
And you’re one to talk. The fact that you seem to determine validity from the invalid based on worthless internet points clearly shows your maturity level.
But since we’re there, let’s look at total comment scores shall we? Our accounts are the same age….
How do you faire?
Anyways, no I was not reading your comment score I was reading the comments that you were writing and I was analyzing the grammar and syntax that you were using to try to place your age.
But if you want to go down that route firstly my account is less than a month old and yours is over 2 months old. But age does not mean much what matters is quality.
you have a score of 9959 and you have made 1196 comments this means on average each comet you make is worth 8.3 points.
I have 982 points and I’ve made 89 comments so each of mine is worth 11 points. So by your own chosen criteria yes I am better than you.
If you factor in the number of posts it looks even worse for you… Do you concede?
Your account is 2 months old with 316 comment score kiddo. Compare it again.
Yes.
You are so cool. There are a lot of people who have absolutely no business ever owning a gun and the less in hands of uneducated, untrained and ignorant individuals the better.
Dude its never been about need idk why y’all focus on that insert skull emoji since my app doesn’t support it