• Verdant Banana@lemmy.world
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    and it does not make companies pay the phone staff a living wage either furthering the problem

    this all just show for the election with no plan to carry through

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      In '21 a bill to more than double the minimum wage to $15/hr failed due to Republicans in Congress, and Biden used an Executive Order to increase Federal Worker minimum wage to $15/hr. The issue isn’t Democrats here. Vote Blue if you want to empower Harris and Co. to enact these changes they clearly also want to implement.

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        In '21 a bill to more than double the minimum wage to $15/hr failed due to Republicans in Congress Democrats pretending that an unelected clerk with only a strictly advisory role had veto power

        Fixed it for you. They had the votes.

        The issue (mostly) isn’t Democrats here

        Fixed that too.

        While there’s no doubt that the American Fascist Party is much worse in probably every way, the Democrats HAVE been known to make a ton of vague promises around election time that they don’t follow up on as well as breaking concrete ones that their owner donors don’t like.

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            They want the Democrats to ignore the parliamentarian and include these changes in a reconciliation bill, which only requires a simple majority. It’s not a real solution, just a way to blame Democrats more. The main problem is the people voting down good legislation, not that the ones in favor “aren’t trying hard enough”.

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              yeah this attitude of you should be able to circumvent the other party and you even get ones who are like well republicans do illegal shit so democrats should to to get their way. Its like um, if they did I would not want to vote for them (really did not bs, hot air, claiming they did type stuff (of implying they are going to))

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                I wouldn’t actually have a problem with them sidestepping the parliamentarian, but acting like it’s the lynch pin to regularly getting good legislation passed is silly.

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                    It’s dysfunctional because a near majority of Congress is specifically there to make the entire thing dysfunctional. Using loopholes does absolutely nothing to fix that core issue. Getting rid of Conservatives does.

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        In '21 a bill to more than double the minimum wage to $15/hr failed due to Republicans in Congress

        With the help of 8 members of the Democratic caucus.

        There will never be another national minimum wage increase. And every centrist loves it that way.

        Note that I said national. Not “well, it covers government employees and blue states, so you worthless flyover morlocks be happy with 2.13 plus tips because we’ve got ours, fuck you.”

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            If you want to pretend that Republicans didn’t have help from Democrats, don’t expect zero pushback.

            And I clearly limited my criticism to the anti-labor centrist wing of the party.

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          “And every centrist loves it that way.” bull. fucking. shit. im a centerist and agree to raising the minimum wage even though I would prefer a maximum wage. don’t make generalizations.

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              I guess it depends on what you think of as center. By republican standards im super commie liberal whatever just like any opponent they face no matter how conservative, but by like 1970’s standards im just left of center.

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          worthless flyover morlocks be happy with 2.13 plus tips because

          That’s what they chose with their votes, and they object to us Trying to give more. Just like they vote against healthcare coverage and object when we try to cover them anyway

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              We’re not (supposed to be) a tyranny. If they keep rejecting additional aid, keep turning away quality of life improvements, don’t accept our money to raise them out of their mess, at the end of the day, that’s their choice.

              If they want to vote against their own best interests, blaming gerrymandering and manipulation hasn’t gotten anywhere and they need to take responsibility for their own votes. I’m running out of fucks to give

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                If they keep rejecting additional aid, keep turning away quality of life improvements, don’t accept our money to raise them out of their mess, at the end of the day, that’s their choice.

                And the people in those states that don’t that to happen? Guess they deserve lifelong poverty for being outnumbered. You got yours. Fuck me. And you wonder why the party that happily gloats that they have nothing they’re willing to offer red states keeps losing red states.

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        justice delayed is justice denied

        Biden has not even been a strong supporter of raising the minimum wage and just giving some lip service to it is a slap in the face to US people

        last time workers demanded better he squashed it by threatening workers with their livelihoods

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          BS.

          • He used executive action on federal employees because that’s all he’s allowed to do. Speak to your congressional Members.
          • He ended the strike and then worked to get it anyway.
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            They know, they spew their propaganda wherever they can. They’ve had their “errors” pointed out dozens of times. It’s willful misinformation at this point.

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          whats the point of this. you would prefer he did not raise it then because its just lip service. I mean the term lip service means talk without action but clearly the minimum wage was raised.