• toomanypancakes@lemmy.world
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            You see part of the problem with the system then. This is why vegans go as far as possible and practicable, because animal abuse is built into everything and is not optional. We’re trying to minimize it where we can, and use that momentum to eventually get rid of some of the malevolent built in nonsense we all have to deal with. Nobody should be subsidizing cow rapists and murders, and it shouldn’t be a requirement to live here to.

            • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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              Your language makes you sound like an anti-abortion nutcase.

              Cow rapist!

              Baby killer!

              It’s all the same to someone that doesn’t feel as strongly about your beliefs as you.

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        lol

        How the fuck did you think milk was produced? This is literally grade school biology. Farmers rape cows for their milk, and you pay them for the privilege.

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        It’s like if you pay a hitman to do some murders for you. Are you a murderer? I guess not technically, but ‘conspirator to commit murder’ doesn’t have the same ring to it. Thus we just opt for rapist, since you support an industry that annually rapes cows and kills their calves so that you can enjoy a tall glass of cow juice.

        It’s ok if that’s what you want to do. No judgement here.

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            You can’t really compare the two things. You have limited control over how your taxes are spent, you can vote on how you want them spent and protest the actions of your government, but outside of that it’s not up to you.

            With milk, though, you are directly financing it by buying the product, and the product wouldn’t exist without those things happening. So you are in effect a ‘conspirator to cow rape’ since your demand incites the act.

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                Ok, so because you’re being needlessly pedantic here is the comparison.

                I am not directly responsible for the wars and murders my government commits because of the reasons I stated above. But if they had a big bucket that said ‘put money in this big bucket to directly support the wars and murders of your government’ and I were to put money in of my own free will - then yes I would be directly responsible for those wars and murders.

                If I do not put money in I am not directly responsible.

                That’s the difference between paying taxes and buying a bottle of cow milk.

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            Yeah, I used a metaphor to help explain how you can be found responsible for something even if you didn’t do the thing yourself.

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                I guess I don’t agree with you. If I buy a product that specifically requires the death of an animal I would feel like I am responsible for the death of that animal and monetarily incentivising the death of other animals.

                If I pay a hitman to kill someone I am not innocent of murder.

                You don’t get to support an industry that kills animals and then say you’re not responsible for the death of animals.

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                  the animal is dead long before I walk into a store or restaurant, and the people who did the killing have already been paid. I have no responsibility for that.

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            Without getting into a semantics debate on what rape is. The reason the word is used is because dairy cows are impregnated by fisting the cows asshole and stimulating their cervix before squirting a semen gun into their vagina. The cows cannot consent to this so the word rape is used. Some people might not consider it rape for whatever reason and yes, the word was probably chosen to be provocative. But that’s the explanation.