• FractalsInfinite@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    Okay, please tell me do I convince an anti-intellectual logic that they refuse to use? I have tried to with no success.

    I do not want my gay friends imprisoned for wanting to be happy, I do not want my trans friends lynched for being able to look at themselves in the mirror. How do you propose I convince those that do through logic alone, when these people are only willing to consider emotional/illogical arguments?

    I don’t care about arguing, I care about solutions, what are your solutions to this discrimination we both hate?

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      1 month ago

      You’re talking sheer pregmatics here? Awesome, now you’re speaking my language.

      Celebrate her relationship. Turn her into a gay folk hero for hooking up with women despite the upbringing / programming.

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        Such a solution could actually work (the example of a Republican finding no controversial stuff in her school’s curriculum comes to mind), however the problem is it would require the person involved to disassociate with there (presumably anti-gay) friends and family and be accepted by her former “enemies”, which would be especially hard if they had a public facing role. They possibly may even have to reject a emotionally driven worldview/ideology they may have adopted, which is quite difficult.

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          1 month ago

          You don’t have to consent to becoming a gay folk hero.

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            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HimToo_movement

            #HimToo became connected with rape allegations … when a mother in the United States tweeted about her son with the #HimToo hashtag. She claimed that her son, Pieter Hanson, was afraid to go on dates because of false rape allegations. Hanson himself disavowed his mother’s tweet, saying that … he never has and never will support #HimToo.

            For better or worse, past evidence suggests people can’t be heroized against there will until they are dead (as was the case for the anti-nillist philosopher Nietzsche)