Friendly reminder that literally all legalization legislation and referendums have come through the Democratic party.
Biden already pledged support. He needs youth vote. There’s literally no reason he wouldn’t unless he was blocked by Republicans…
… Which he is.
Yeah but some white kid doesn’t get to blaze it with their free unicorn pony so end of democracy over it we get!
I am lost at what you are trying to say here. Check the end of the sentence.
Phlubba might be referring to right wing youths who would hypothetically vote against Biden or not vote at all, cascading into a loss of US Democracy and eventually the fall of NATO and potentially democracy across the world as a whole. I don’t think our situation is necessarily that bad, but it’s definitely one of many possible futures.
What does this have to do with free unicorn ponies or the discussion at hand?
Ah, that would be a metaphor. “Blaze it with their free unicorn pony” is supposed to represent any unrealistic and fundamentally flawed policy goal that the aforementioned hypothetical children would be willing to risk the end of democracy if they do not obtain. Again, I don’t necessarily agree with their statement, but it at least is coherent enough.
He’s saying the only thing he ever says: having expectations of Democrats means you’re a spoiled child.
Ah — correction — having unreasonable expectations of Democrats in the face of immovable majority opposition, suggests you’re a spoiled child.
I meant exactly what I said. There is no correction needed.
Just because you falsely consider all criticism of Democrats to be unreasonable and all opposition to be immovable doesn’t make it so.
Well since you’re speaking for someone else, how about we just ask them who was closer to “what they meant” instead of just presuming with your blatant strawman?
$10 I’m closer.
“This user says criticism only comes from children” is much less of a strawman than their “unicorn ponies” garbage.
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When the fate of your entire legal system hinges on the cast of Pineapple Express showing up to vote for the correct candidate, democracy may have already ended and you just didn’t notice.
Fuck ur logic! We want outrage! D:<
Then why is one of his campaign promises written as: “As president he will decriminalize cannabis…”
Is his campaign promising things he doesn’t have the power to do?
Yes this is literally par for the course for every single presidential campaign in history.
They promise what they’ll do. They don’t say try to do because that’s been tested in marketing and certainty sounds better. Nevertheless it’s not Biden’s fault his agenda for what he’s been voted into office on is being blocked by the opposition for poor reasons.
The question isn’t why isn’t Biden doing this, the issue is why are Republicans blocking it and why aren’t you trying to convince them and their supporters?
If I can’t believe any of the good campaign promises from biden because everyone lies, why should we take the scary campaign promises of republicans seriously?
It really leads to apathy in the voter base.
For the same reason we take Biden seriously: Legalization has progressed in universally all blue states, has it not?
Ergo, you answered your own question: promises often come to fruition.
So let’s not risk letting Republican promises become reality, such as the promise of overturning Roe… Righhtttt?
promises often come to fruition.
It’s more like he’s bandwagoning something that now has popular support, without actually accomplishing much.
If he was serious he could reappoint DEA and other positions. Or an executive order to be challenged in court, etc.
Both Biden and his VP are on record as being anti marijuana before this last campaign. Biden as recently as when he was VP himself.
Bidens campaign has also fired or removed staffers for prior marijuana use.
Let’s review this as I’m seeing goalpost moving and circular reasoning present, forgetting curiously strange double-standards in where one directs their attention:
- I highlight the fact that all Marijuana legalization, decriminalization initiatives, referendums have come under the Democratic party with Democratic states being the trailblazers
- You ignore this fact.
- You Pivot to why Biden is making promises he can’t keep
- I point to the fact that this is universal and the promise would be kept if it wasn’t for Republican Obstruction
- I ask why you concern yourself so much with Biden and not the obvious Republican obstructionists and their base whom you would be better served convincing in their comment threads.
- Again, you ignore this inquiry.
- You pivot to downplaying Trump’s bad promises because they MIGHT be obstructed (rightfully so) by Democrats. (Forget the fact that one GOP/Trump Promise of overturning Roe came to fruition)
- I thus this proves my point.
- You, again, ignore this, then circle back to why Biden isn’t trying harder. This is ostensibly victim-blaming. In other words, “Why isn’t the hero of the story not doing MORE to overcome the villain!?”
It’s more like he’s bandwagoning something that now has popular support, without actually accomplishing much.
Yes, it’s pretty normal that popular things are often adopted by Presidential candidates. Kind of a no-brainer, don’t you think? As I said before: (1) It’s popular, and (2) Biden needs those youth voters. If it’s so popular, why isn’t Trump doing it? Why are Republicans so opposed? This finally begs the question: Why WOULDN’T Biden support it if he could? The answer is: there is no valid reason, which means Republicans are largely to blame while the workarounds are cumbersome and even run the risk of wasting time in front of the conservative Supreme Court, jeopordizing future attempts at decriminalization.
Politicians change minds. Legalization has become far more popular in recent times. At the end of the day, like it or not, Democrats and Biden are still the best pathways toward decriminalization. We certainly won’t get anything out of Trump and Republicans (which it strikes me as odd you tried to downplay Trump above).
At this point if it looks quacks and acts like a duck it probably is one. To bystanders reading this thread, this user demonstrates all classic signs of a right-wing operative intending to gaslight, sow defeatism, and wedge-drive Democrats.
You will see more of this, sadly.
- I highlight the fact that all Marijuana legalization, decriminalization initiatives, referendums have come under the Democratic party with Democratic states being the trailblazers
- You ignore this fact.
Because its not true. There’s a Republican led bill introduced as recently as 2023.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/5977
except you never addressed anything they said. youre acting just like trump cultists, where all evidence is fake anf theres always an excuse. its a bad look.
youre trying to make yourself sound rational here and its really starting yl break down, dude.
lolwut.
Indeed, I believe everyone should strive for rationality.
yes but you’re failing, while still wearing the aesthetics.
why should we take the scary campaign promises of republicans seriously?
Because the scary promises have support from those currently in power and are therefore much more likely to be implemented. Nice promises of change with support from the people are far less likely because the they face not only resistance from the opposing party, but the people are easily propagandized (by those currently in power) to not vote or vote against their interests.
I dunno being visibly queer under trump didn’t feel worse than under biden.
the policies were worse but most people accepted that resisting the government was necessary. if its all that broken, this might actually be better.
maybe I’ll change my tune if the dems decide to run a candidate who isn’t dangling us over the ledge of fascism to appease his geriatric ego.
I dunno being visibly queer under trump didn’t feel worse than under biden.
Where are you? I could mostly say the same thing living in a blue area, but I’m not willing to throw my LGBTQIA fam under the bus because I’m pissy about Democrats. Fascism is a silly threat being dangled by Biden, it’s a risk you and I take of being thrown in the oven.
yep!
I just don’t think biden will stop them from doing it, but his followers might make a fuss if he’s not president.
I’m really struggling to understand how you don’t understand how this works. I have to conclude you’re doing this in bad faith, given you implied your age is pretty high.
What part do I not understand?
That they aren’t promises but goals. The Biden administration (and about every administration) works towards everything they say they’ll do, how much they get done is determined by their majority and the willingness of the opposition to work with them.
That they aren’t promises but goals.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/biden-promise-tracker/?ruling=true
Why use the word “promise” then? Is this Newspeak?
Because unlike in fairytales, in real life when bad guys try to do bad things, they usually win and come out on top.
Well, I don’t have a study backing me up, but in my experience, promising what you can’t deliver often results in being called a liar.
I really don’t know why “other candidates do it” would be an excuse. The whole pitch for voting for him is that he is supposed to be better than the other candidates. Seems like whataboutism.
Amazing how every sentence you said has its own bad premise and a skewed conclusion.
Don’t ask - I will not elaborate.
Someone just learned how politics work! Big day for you, huh?
It’s not really about how politics work. It is about how human minds work. The fact that making empty promises and then excuses is more effective than being honest shows one of the reasons why democracy isn’t a good system (although it may currently be the least bad).
And just accepting the lies probably makes it worse.
You might as well just not vote at all because not a single president will ever keep every campaign promise they make. Ever. You don’t have to like it but that’s reality and the only reason to be mad about it for one specific candidate over another is personal bias.
Obviously everyone should vote but unless you’re new to all of this you should already know to pick your battles. If campaign promises weren’t kept you should research it and know why before you complain about it.
Who says I am mad about it for one specific candidate? That is your bias showing there mate.
Excuses like roughly half of Americans oppose it and are shitheads?
Only half are shitheads? (suprised pikachu)
On a more serious note: That would be a very good excuse if that wasn’t obvious already when he was making promises.
88% support legalization of marijuana, hell if you expand that to all drugs, 55% still support the decriminalization of all drugs
https://www.cato.org/blog/poll-55-americans-favor-decriminalizing-drugs
I get what you’re saying on principle, but the reality is that the world does not work like that. There’s a reason populism is often a quick way to get to power, because you just promise whatever people want to hear so you could be elected. People don’t vote based on logic, people vote based on emotion, which means people don’t consider what is realistic, they consider what speaks to them.
You say it as if it was a good thing and not something we should strive to change.
What gave you that impression?
Is his campaign promising things he doesn’t have the power to do?
A president can do almost NOTHING unilaterally. What they’re promising you is what they’ll support if it makes it to their desk. This is how checks and balances work… if you want to vote for someone who has sworn to be as shitty as possible because the guy who swore to do things you want can’t just snap his fingers and make it happen, I guess nobody can stop you…
What you’re finding is that the Democratic party is still interested in a functioning government where people don’t just vote the party line like a borg - which results in more difficulty passing legislation. Unfortunately, “both sides same” isn’t remotely accurate which you’re finding out.
Memory of a goldfish.
Friendly reminder that mass incarceration was a bipartisan effort going back 4 decades.
Irrelevant. Read again, except this time more closely.
What matters is who changed first.
Democrats.
Democrats changed first.
As, in recent history preceding the great ideological shifts of party banners, they always do.
in recent history preceding the great ideological shifts of party banners
How old are you?
A lot of us consider 1994 to be pretty recent but maybe not to the younger crowd
Does it really matter to the point being made?
Oh man, how far we’ve come in 30 years. I really am quite proud of the Democratic party.
On the flipside, Republicans have if anything continued to regress.
Does it really matter to the point being made?
Idk? What point is being made? That Democrats took a modest aesthetic step toward fixing a problem they helped create? A problem that runs much deeper than the scheduling of drugs and a problem that destroyed entire communities of color?
I’m not interested in engaging in a debate with you, I just think it’s important to recognize the depth of the issues being discussed and be skeptical of the accomplishments being touted during an election year.
Being the sole gateway through which Marijuana legalization has occurred is a, “modest aesthetic”?
LOL.
Of course you’re not interested, because you know you’ve got nothing. And yet, here you are.
Being the sole gateway through which Marijuana legalization has occurred is a, “modest aesthetic”?
What an incredibly shallow understanding of a deeply impactful issue.
Asking how old someone is completely defeats the purpose. We’ve seen how boomers mishandled things and pulled the ladders up behind them so let’s not pretend that being old and remembering 1994 “like it was pretty recent” (it wasn’t) makes your opinion in any way superior.
It’s relevant and recent when the majority of the legislators who passed the law are still in congress
We’ve seen how boomers mishandled things and pulled the ladders up behind them
That’s exactly my point. We’re still living in the reality of laws passed by boomers - hell, we’re still being governed by them. That reality doesn’t just go away when the boomers acknowledge they fucked it up, they have to actually fix their shit.
but they haven’t changed, and if they want my vote at this point, after the shit they pulled, they basically need to go down on me.
Irrelevant
Nobody ask who co-sponsored the '94 Crime Bill.
You’re not allowed to talk about the '94 Crime Bill. You’re certainly not allowed to talk about the War on Drugs or the privatization of the modern prison industry.
Nobody ask where Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, and Tip O’Neal were when any of this shit got passed.
Absolutely and under no circumstances should you google who gave Strom Thurmond’s eulogy.
The legalization of cannabis in my state was brought about by activists, not Democratic Party members, and was passed by the public, which is made up of a majority of unaffiliated voters. Our Democratic governor vehemently opposed the measure. He did implement it when it passed, which Republican legislatures and governors have not done when similar bills were passed by the public in Republican states, though.
Curious of the state but I’m willing to bet money >90% of those activists were, conveniently, voting Democrats or of the Democratic coalition.
This is generally reflected in public polling: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/03/26/most-americans-favor-legalizing-marijuana-for-medical-recreational-use/#:~:text=62%25 of conservative and moderate,Democrats (84%25) say this.
Finally, conservatives are starting to come around but they’re always behind the curve.
Friendly reminder that literally all legalization legislation and referendums have come through the Democratic party.
https://www.kiplinger.com/politics/red-states-embrace-marijuana-the-kiplinger-letter
Red states are poised to increasingly embrace weed. Ohio is the latest, becoming the 24th state to legalize marijuana for recreational use via a voter referendum. This follows successful efforts in the past two years in Montana and Missouri. Fourteen states have legalized marijuana for medical use only.
Yep, you can thank blue states and democratic activists for paving the way years ahead of anyone.
… Eventually reds trail behind.
Edit: Also I’m willing to bet those referendums in those red states were petitioned largely by left-wing Democratic-caucus members.
He pushed a recommendation for it to be rescheduled to the DEA like two years ago and they’ve been stonewalling?
Oh so he actually did something? Almost like OP is big fat phoney.
Before one of OP’s other posts on this topic was removed as misinformation, I asked under that post what Biden could possibly have done aside from pardoning all federal convictions for possession, requesting the DEA to reschedule marijuana, and introducing a bill for full federal legalization which the Republicans defeated (all three of which happened).
Crickets man. (I actually learned since then that it’s a little more complex – it actually seems like maybe Biden was opposed to the full legalization bill that Schumer was pushing, and there was definitely some level of Democratic opposition in the senate. So maybe that piece of the criticism is legit, IDK, but OP never brought that stuff up to me when I asked what Biden should do.)
That conversation was actually the exact point that I became confident that OP’s just here to shit on Biden and specifically Biden for whatever reason, and any concordance that emerges between what he’s saying and the truth is purely accidental, and he knows it.
(Also, fun fact Matt Gaetz switched sides to join with 2 other House Republicans to vote for weed legalization.)
It’s too bad that he’s just trying to shit on Biden. I have always been pro legalization.
Honestly I kind of like that the states are going back to having radically different systems. That was the way it was supposed to be – like if you think weed should be legal, or illegal, then try it out, and everyone can watch it in practice and see how it works.
I don’t like that it’s so polarized to only two big centers of gravity and one of them is Naziism but the idea of it being a variety seems like more of the idea of what the US was supposed to be.
States rights: Republicans get what they want and Democrats don’t have to fight for anything nationwide.
? I am confuse
States’ rights in this particular case led to marijuana legalization a bunch of places which was pretty far from what the Republicans wanted
And a bunch of Democrats have been fighting for full federal legalization for a few years now. I’m aware there’s a mythology that it’s every Democrat’s fault that 99% of Republicans voted in lock-step against it, which meant that little slivers of Democratic opposition were able to defeat it, but I’m not convinced by that logic
I’m aware that some Republicans use “states’ rights” as a fig leaf for their awful policies but how on Earth are you trying to apply it in that way to this particular issue
? I am confuse
That’s because you didn’t read the single sentence I wrote.
States’ rights in this particular case led to marijuana legalization a bunch of places which was pretty far from what the Republicans wanted
I said nationwide. You responded with state level policy.
And a bunch of Democrats have been fighting for full federal legalization for a few years now.
Sure they have.
I’m aware that some Republicans use “states’ rights” as a fig leaf for their awful policies but how on Earth are you trying to apply it in that way to this particular issue
Because Democrats are content to let Republicans curtail rights for good people in red states, as long as they don’t have to worry in blue states.
I looked into this and found this legal sidebar somewhat informative.
In classic Biden/dem fashion, while it’s true he has done something that could lead towards delivering on his campaign promise, it’s comically little and falls far short of his full power. Why hasn’t he tried issuing executive orders to legalize or reschedule and force opponents of legalization to crawl out of the woodwork in a lawsuit? Alternatively, the DEA is part of the executive branch. He could immediately replace directors there with those who will implement this policy - why hasn’t this been done?
Biden literally threw up his hands and said “awww but my allies in Congress won’t let me do it.” Disingenuous at best.
I mean it’s the classic strategy. The reason everyone accuses them of doing fucking nothing is because there’s always a throw it to congress mentality, then congress is inevitably deadlocked by like two guys because of the way the system is set up, and then whenever it isn’t deadlocked, suddenly there’s some other internal opposition, until it can be deadlocked again in the next 15 minutes. People at this point want other more theoretical measures enacted, like when people were talking about putting abortion clinics on federal land or in national parks. I don’t even think stuff like that would be a bad play. Even if it wasn’t necessarily successful, it’d do a hell of a lot to show that there’s something more being done than the normal state of affairs, which is exactly what people want.
Precisely. We deserve someone who will fight for us, and do everything possible to enact what they believe in (and what we voted for) even if it’s not the ideal solution. This milquetoast bullshit just isn’t going to get the votes anymore, sorry establishment dems but after 40 years enough is enough.
For one administration after another, all we get is “that’s just no longer a priority,” “we’ll leave it to Congress for a bipartisan compromise,” “the senate parliamentarian won’t let us,” “Manchin and Sinema aren’t actually democrats,” or my personal favorite: “we can’t because the republicans will yell at us.” This is wrong and it’s absolutely infuriating. It’s made 10x worse when all we ever hear about progressive ideas is “well how you gonna pay for that?!” The answer to this is glaringly obvious - we pay for it the same way we pay for tax cuts for the rich, or funds to bomb and kill brown children in the middle east. And just like those initiatives, we make it happen no matter what it takes - and if you don’t like it, you can vote us out of office come November.
In classic Biden/dem fashion, while it’s true he has done something that could lead towards delivering on his campaign promise, it’s comically little and falls far short of his full power.
This would be completely accurate if you took the “Biden/” part out of it. I know it’s a popular myth that Biden is part of this pattern, but in actuality he did:
- Pass a climate bill that targets 40% reduction in emissions by 2030
- Forgave around $144 billion in student loan debt
- Boosted income for the poorest wage earners by a huge amount (outpacing even the pretty historic inflation of the last couple of years as follow-on effects from Covid took hold)
- Raised corporate tax significantly to pay for all of the above
He tried to do more on all fronts, but it’s far from comical and the fact that he got that much done over stiff Republican resistance is to me pretty fuckin impressive. Example – he tried to forgive half a trillion dollars of student loan debt through some direct executive action, and it went to the Supreme Court and they told him no.
Like I said though, I think marijuana is actually one isolated instance where that criticism that he wasn’t actually trying to support full legalization / wasn’t doing as much as he could to get it done might be halfway warranted. But to me that’s more of an exception to his usual pattern.
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This is correct. The HHS recommended rescheduling, and the DEA hasn’t responded to the recommendation. They’re probably concerned it’ll affect their budget having fewer criminals to pursue.
This is the relevant bit from the article:
In late 2022, President Joe Biden issued an executive order directing HHS to review marijuana’s status as a Schedule I drug under the Controlled Substances Act, while giving a recommendation on whether it should be rescheduled. After a roughly year-long review, HHS sent a letter to the DEA in August requesting that they move marijuana to Schedule III.
They had their own review and recommended that Cannabis be moved from Schedule I(Drugs with no medicinal value and a high risk of harm/abuse - heroin,LSD,etc) to Schedule III(Drugs with low risk of harm/abuse and clear medicinal value - cough syrup,Ketamine,etc).
The Controlled Substances Act which established all our current drugs laws states that ONLY the DEA has the power to ultimately change the classification of any controlled substance. If the DEA does not feel inclined to change this, then nothing will happen with the recommendation. Biden can always play political hardball since the head of the agency is an appointed position, but it would still need to be confirmed by the Senate in the end.
I wouldn’t expect to see a drop to schedule III, but I think in the next five or so year we may see it become schedule II. Progress is progress I guess.
Exactly. He could issue an executive order, but if the DEA doesn’t agree before the order expires, it would be far more of devastating to the industry as a whole.
He literally did issue an executive order, in late 2022.The DEA seem to have their thumbs up their arses though.
Edit: It seems likely that I was incorrect here. I was going off of the article linked in the top level comment (https://themarijuanaherald.com/2024/04/a-complete-timeline-of-the-deas-marijuana-scheduling-review-prompted-by-department-of-health-recommendation/ ) which states that Biden did issue an executive order. It appears that the article was wrong, but more than that, I was wrong to assert this so confidently when I had only skim read an article and didn’t follow up on its sources (plus I’m not American, so I should be more mindful of checking things if I’m commenting on US government related stuff.
The DEA seem like a large part of the problem and there may well be more that Biden could be doing to move this along, but I don’t know enough to speculate.
I only see a presidential proclamation on justice.gov and a statement on whitehouse.gov. Do you have a link to the executive order?
https://www.justice.gov/pardon/presidential-proclamation-marijuana-possession
I don’t have a link because it appears that you’re right and I was mistaken. I’ve edited my comment to reflect that, I apologise for speaking so confidently on something that actually, I wasn’t sure of. Thanks for challenging me on it — realising I was wrong has made me feel like a bit of an arse right now, but I’d rather feel that than be blissfully ignorant and spreading misinformation. I appreciate the time you spent to fact check me.
It’s all good. Happens to the best of us. If there were an executive order, I’d like to know about it. They’re temporary proclamations, which are good for buying time to get proper legislation in place. If he had changed the classification with an EO, the dispensaries would invest in the new liberty. If the DEA failed to come though before the EO expired, the dispensaries would be in violation of the law. They’re really only to be used during a crisis when proper legislation is sure to follow.
Adderall is schedule 2
You’re right, I edited that bit to replace it with Ketamine!
Schedule III(Drugs with low risk of harm/abuse and clear medicinal value - cough syrup,Ketamine,etc).
The same cough syrup that contains codeine, an opiate and creates a very strong physical addiction? The same that killed Juice WRLD and Pimp C? The one that almost killed Lil Nas and Macklemore?
The fact that marijuana is right now considered as more harmful than this and should be lowered to this kind of level is just fucked up
Tying law enforcement funding to their arrests is just the most idiotic idea and I am shocked at how few Congress folks have been speed trapped if they actually can’t see why
Plus, the potheads are probably easier to catch.
Exactly, was looking for this exact comment,
So many children are just learning about politics and don’t yet understand that things normally don’t just happen when a president doesn’t abuse executive orders
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Then why is one of his campaign promises written as: “As president he will decriminalize cannabis…”
Is his campaign promising things he doesn’t have the power to do?
No one politician has the power to do anything directly, really. That’s how the US system of government works. It’s fundemantal to how it operates that no one politician can promise to singlehandedly do anything. So, since everyone understands that, they say what they intend to do.
stuff like this needs some weight behind it to pass, not just a one and done recommendation.
It definitely needs to be decriminalized but that’ll actually take an act of Congress. Public pressure needs to be applied but let’s not pretend Biden can do this on his own
This is the reality of the situation.
And…
How dare a prosecutor of the law checks notes prosecute the law!
She’s done some scummy stuff as a DA but blaming her for what laws she’s legally required to enforce is just idiotic
A good current example is how the prosecutors of Kings, New York, and Queens Counties in New york state have all across the board decided to decline to prosecute prostitution despite the State prohibition An article from an established Albany(capitol of NY) newspaper explaining the drastic change in statistics after NYC prosecutors stopped prosecuting
In my opinion, they are wrong to do so. Prosecutors are public servants, not policymakers. The legislative organ makes the rules, the prosecutors enforce them. If you’re okay with this then you’re okay with giving prosecutors the power to arbitrarily decide which laws they want to enforce and which they don’t.
There is a reason why there is a strict separation in duties between the different organs of state.
Well that is where the crossroads of discretion and duty to prosecute intersect. Technically the prosecutors have a duty to prosecute all cognizable offenses under law, but in the interest of justice may dismiss any such cases. My argument is that a prosecutor who genuinely believed that prosecuting an offense was contrary to the interest of justice, they would have the option and arguably be compeled to dismiss such cases as shown above.
“Interest of justice” is being used as an excuse for refusing to enforce laws they don’t agree with in that given example. “Contrary to the interest of justice” is always going to be a squishy term, but calling a blanket refusal to prosecute something that the legislature has decided to criminalise is, in my opinion, not an exercise of discretion but an abuse of it and willing dereliction of duty.
1, sex work, not prostitution, and 2, that’s 100% true, but it’s not anyone’s duty to literally defy the terms of their job for what they might or might not personally think is morally correct, and expecting that of someone is extremely unfair.
Not everyone can or should have to do the extraordinary to be an agent that can be trusted to work for change when put into the right context or when they personally feel ready to stand up.
A church is built to thank the martyrs, not built by the martyrs.
Should Kim Davis have shut the fuck up and done her job to issue marriage licenses regardless of her own feelings on the subject?
Crazy how the “just do your job” crowd gets real quiet on this subject.
Yeah but it’s much easier and simpler to just blame Biden. /s
It definitely needs to be decriminalized but that’ll actually take an act of Congress
There’s other ways to try, Biden just won’t.
Although the President may not unilaterally deschedule or reschedule a controlled substance, he does possess a large degree of indirect influence over scheduling decisions. The President could pursue the appointment of agency officials who favor descheduling, or use executive orders to direct DEA, HHS, and FDA to consider administrative descheduling of marijuana. The notice-and-comment rulemaking process would take time, and would be subject to judicial review if challenged, but could be done consistently with the CSA’s procedural requirements. In the alternative, the President could work with Congress to pursue descheduling through an amendment to the CSA.
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10655
But the House passed a bill to deschedule in 2022, and Biden’s whole deal in the last primary was how well he could get Republican senators on board with Dem legislation.
He couldn’t.
But going back full circle:
Why did Biden promise to deschedule if there’s no way he can deschedule?
Wait, but he did the things you mentioned in the first part. That doesn’t fit with “but he won’t”.
To the full-circle thing, I’m not sure what the point is. There was no explicit deadline. Promises by politicians to assert their position have been used since forever. It doesn’t change the fact there are obstructions to their good intentions. If I promise something and someone blocks me from viably pursuing it, that’s not on me, that’s on them: Republicans.
And if they approach it the wrong way, as quoted material suggests, it risks being thrown out by the conservative court making future attempts possibly more difficult.
If I promise something and someone blocks me from viably pursuing it, that’s not on me, that’s on them: Republicans.
If I promise my kid a trip to their favorite amusement park and then don’t get the big bonus I expected from work to afford it, it’s not my jobs fault the kid didn’t go to the park. It’s my fault for making a promise and not finding a way to follow through.
If I promise my kid a trip to their favorite amusement park and then don’t get to go because Republicans blew up every bridge along the way to the amusement park, which also flooded because of Climate Change, then that’s on Republicans, not me.
Nice stealth edit, because you realize what you say is ridiculous.
You’re borderline obsessed with a boogie man. Take some personal accountability.
If you want to use your example that’d be like knowing those bridges were scheduled for demolition, and still promising to drive over them the next day anyway.
Stealth edit? Sorry, I corrected a typo. What did you think I did? LOL.
Like knowing those bridges were scheduled for demolition,
Except in your terrible analogy, this is amplifying momentum for people to vote, which could’ve inevitably changed the outcome of who controlled the House and Senate. Therefore, Biden couldn’t have predicted those bridges to be blown up because it was quite possibly people would make the sensible choice and not put these demolitionists back in Congress.
Republicans have nothing. You will lose.
Biden couldn’t have predicted those bridges to be blown up because it was quite possibly people would make the sensible choice and not put these demolitionists back in Congress.
If he ignored the entire history of the party and voting base. Why is it not his own fault for being able to understand that water is wet?
He definitely over promised on the schedule 2 reclass; because of the congressionally mandated process for reclassification, it takes about 9 years from formal proposal to the DEA being allowed to reschedule.
Fun fact: Biden has already pardoned thousands of people with marijuana convictions. Asking him to pardon EVERYONE when they may have had marijuana as a minor add-on to other criminal charges is a bit silly of an ask.
Biden doesn’t run the DEA and can’t force them to reschedule the drug. This is almost as dumb as the conservatives saying Biden needs to do something about border security then not being upset the Republicans have voted against every effort to do something about border security before it makes it to Biden’s desk.
*the number of people in this country who think the President is a dictator and can literally just make up laws on his own is terrifying.
President is King of Oosa. He make law. Me talk about president. Me listen many podcast. Me give much opinion. Me not know state rep. Me vote every 4 year. Me mad at gas price. Bad president.
The number of people in this country who want the President to be a dictator and literally just make up laws on his own is also terrifying.
Democrats said their hands were tied for decades. But Biden’s hands weren’t tied when he got to support Netanyahu’s genocide.
I don’t know about anyone else, but I cannot trust that when a democrat says their hands are tied, it’s actually the case, instead of just what democrats say about shit they don’t want to do.
Biden doesn’t run the DEA and can’t force them to reschedule the drug.
Who appointed Anne Milgram?
Asking him to pardon EVERYONE when they may have had marijuana as a minor add-on to other criminal charges is a bit silly of an ask.
This would be pardoning the mary jane offenses but leaving the others
Biden doesn’t run the DEA and can’t force them to reschedule the drug.
Still a campaign promise
It was one of the campaign promises. Is it wrong to hold the president accountable for what they’ve said?
And even if he doesn’t have the authority to force it on his own, he still had enough influence to make it happen. Obama gets a lot of credit for “Obamacare,” even though it wouldn’t have happened without majority support in both the house and senate.
Dasvedanya comrade but can I remind you that despite being a lifelong liberal Donald Trump is committed to maximum jail sentences for drug crimes?
This rage bait smells like it was posted by a Trump supporter.
I wonder what they think Trump will do as far as marijuana legislation. Hmm.
Everyone to my left is all the way to my right.
You must have a lot of trouble driving. Seriously though I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Have a nice day.
Is this something that he can just make happen with an executive order or does he need approval from the rest of the government? Can’t really be upset about things that he can’t simply snap a finger and make happen.
He needs congress. He has pressured the DEA to reschedule it which is about all he can do without congress
Something something infrastructure week
Democrats when Democrats don’t use their powers to do what they promised: “Um akshully it has to pass congress and guess what all dem republicans are blocking the bills so really biden’s hands are tied and it’s your fault for not voting enough”
Also Democrats: “lmao lets shove thousands of bombs to Israel and run security defense exercises against the Houthis without congressional approval”
Meanwhile Republicans: “executive privilege and unconstitutional orders go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr”
Trump really showed us the only thing stopping the President from doing whatever they want is the President.
*Politicians don’t use their powers to do what they promised.
“Push Biden Left”? The only thing that’ll change a geriatric mind like that is a visit by 3 ghosts.
Funny considering how many positions Biden has changed once he learned more about the issue. From bussing to economics and even health care he’s shown the ability to put ideology aside to do what’s right for the Americans people.
After the daily trump tantrums Biden has been 4 years of sensible non stories for the most part.
Not once did he tank the market with a tweet.
PSA: Decriminalization is not legalization. It just means it’s no longer a criminal offence.
Then what is it?
It’s still illegal and you get a fine instead of thrown in jail.
Civil offense. Usually a fine or penalty.
Not paying penalties eventually can result in a criminal charge.
Laughs in 5 year old Canadian legislation.
More BS caused by ® obstructionists.
It’s fucking insane how many “moderate” Biden supporters are blaming red states for not just ignoring federal law…
Like, I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
The decades of this bullshit “solution” is going to come back and bite us in the ass when it’s used as precedent to say state laws matter more than federal.
Anyone that claims the current SC wouldn’t go along with this has to be willfully naive, like, you can’t make that suggestion unless you haven’t went a single thought past “defend Biden at all costs”.
And that’s why the modern Republican party is so fucked up.
dude can’t even say genocide is bad.
Biden has taken a very strong and outspoken position in opposition to certain instances of genocide.
But not the one he’s currently supporting.
Well, no. But that’s one of the good genocides.
