• TWeaK@lemm.ee
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            2 months ago

            Nah they do have some valid purpose, eg communal roads and facilities - at least in a country where the state refuses to adopt basic infrustructure for new housing developments.

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              2 months ago

              Of the state refuses to adopt basic infrastructure. If the state did, then they would have to make it open to everyone.

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                2 months ago

                Sure, but what’s wrong with that? I mean, roads are already open to everyone - your mailman can access them, visitors can access them, etc. If you extend it to ponds and parks and stuff, it wouldn’t be the end of the world for those to be public, either.

                Maybe with pools and such it’s a different story, but there are ways of managing those without setting up a mini government rife for abuse.

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                  2 months ago

                  I mean, roads are already open to everyone - your mailman can access them, visitors can access them, etc.

                  That is not the case for all HOA’s. For some, they have gated communities. For others, they are more than willing to enforce private property rights on people who don’t meet the “character” of the community.

                  If you extend it to ponds and parks and stuff, it wouldn’t be the end of the world for those to be public, either.

                  Sure it would. The wrong people might use it. After all, they aren’t building these amenities for everyone to use, just residents who either own property or are leasing property in a way that is approved by the HOA.

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                    That is not the case for all HOA’s. For some, they have gated communities.

                    Yes, but they still allow mail deliveries and visitors in some form or another.

                    After all, they aren’t building these amenities for everyone to use, just residents who either own property or are leasing property in a way that is approved by the HOA.

                    Yes, but there are other ways to manage that then setting up an HOA which can be expanded well beyond the management of that communal property.

                    You only have to look and see how other countries do it to see that HOA’s are uniquely an American problem, one that has no justification in being as bad as it is.