Remember when Spez said it was “It’s time we grow up and behave like an adult company”? Apparently, that means paying himself $193 million and single-handedly tanking Reddit’s profitability right b…::undefined

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    The truth is he’s a jealous little turd of a person. The other reddit founders, the ones with brains and skills, got out early and got paid. Even the dead one was more successful. He wants to drain reddit of money while tanking it. He thinks he’s entitled. It’s a real shame he reproduced too, the poor kid is doomed with a godawful role model like that.

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      Ohanion was also a fucking prick, shitting up the company while he was there. All the Ellen Pao stuff and the r/IAMA clusterfuck that led to the first big Reddit shutdown? Yeah that was all Ohanion’s doing. Then he let Pao take all the heat for his decisions and get ousted.

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          The myth of Aaron Swartz continues…

          He was a big proponent of free speech absolutism. He’d have been more than happy with the jailbait subs, watchpeopledie, fatpeoplehate etc. I really don’t think he deserves a free pass just because Reddit wasn’t enshittifying while he was around, as it was in a growth phase. It had other problems which needed resolution.

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            I can see where he picked up that attitude. It was common in the hacker types of the late 90s/early 2000s regardless of where their politics lay otherwise. Around the time he died, many of them were starting to see the monster that was created out of that, but it wasn’t really obvious until the 2016 election.

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              And the idea was that we should be better than that. We’re more educated now than people have been since at least the Roman times, and probably ever.

              We’re supposed to be able to handle free speech absolutism and simply bust through all the bullshit and logical fallacies. We’re supposed to have the tools to find the truth, and therefore be resistant to propaganda.

              Even after all this, I don’t think it’s our education that is lacking. It’s our lack of community that makes us vulnerable. It’s easier than ever to pick and choose who your limited “community” is, outside of family. And there’s a reason family is taking the brunt of the pressure now.

              The boomer adage of never talking about religion or politics has killed us. People used to fight and die over politics, and now we can’t even talk about politics with close family. Better to avoid the subject and just let dad go out and vote for the guy idolizing mein kampf.

              It’s especially a failure of our churches. One of the few places we still have a third place, a community, and most have failed to lead their people to truly Christian values. How can the way Republicans treat immigrants reconcile with Christianity? Their stance on guns while children are being murdered regularly enough that we can’t name all the schools anymore? Go ahead and rattle off the easy four before clicking the spoiler. I’ll wait. ::: spoiler spoiler Columbine, Newtown, Sandy Hook, Uvalde ::: Sorry, Parkland, I forgot you. And sorry for all the others I can’t name.

              The idea that any and all information should be free isn’t new. The idea that we should have the wisdom to discern the truth and handle the chaff hadn’t been tested so hard in a long time.

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            https://web.archive.org/web/20031229025933/http:/bits.are.notabug.com/

            Share Child Pornography

            In the US, it is illegal to possess or distribute child pornography, apparently because doing so will encourage people to sexually abuse children.

            This is absurd logic. Child pornography is not necessarily abuse. Even if it was, preventing the distribution or posession of the evidence won’t make the abuse go away. We don’t arrest everyone with videotapes of murders, or make it illegal for TV stations to show people being killed.

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            WPD has it’s place and there was nowhere on the internet that was nearly as sanitized as it was on reddit compared to other gore sites.

            That morbid curiosity in my twenties helped me through a lot.

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              I guess it’s the one I care least about that I listed. Substitute in the overtly racist subreddits, if you wish, as they surely didn’t deserve a platform.

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            You have to admit that comparatively he was the least rotten apple in that basket though.

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        Rather than try to explain it, I think it’s easier to say this. Imagine something you cherish dearly. Now imagine it slowly eroding away into nothing. Would you not be angry and want to prevent that at all costs?

        Seeing something so useful go the way of the dodo just because the people in charge of the company want to be rich is infuriating. This could really be said about far too many companies. But IMO, Reddit’s situation is more sad because the users are what made the site. The owners/creators just made the platform.

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          Hey! That’s what happened to gaming!

          And television and film!

          And music!

          Just art in general.

          It fucking sucks!

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            Tbf with gaming, the indie scene is BOOMING, stay away from AAA games and you still get amazing new experiences every year

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            I understand your sentiment here, but I wholeheartedly disagree. I think we’re living at the beginning of a new renaissance of art. For all the negative things that the internet age has brought, the silver lining is that independent musicians, visual artists, animators, filmmakers etc have the best opportunity of all time to make what they really want to make and get paid for it.

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          No I wouldn’t and I didn’t.

          I find that harbouring these kind of negative emotions only effects the person having them. I don’t want to drag my own mood down. I left Reddit, I came it and I like it here. The end.

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            Sounds like an outlook that works well for you, but not everyone has that same outlook

            Edit: LMAO someone didnt like this comment enough that they went through my entire comment history and downvoted everything that they could see

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          I had an annual subscription for years because I wanted to support them and they weren’t being greedy about it.

          Reddit gold was an amazing way to harness the goodwill they’d developed with the community. When it was invented, it wasn’t a product to be sold. It was a voluntary way to give back to both the site and your fellow users.

          The only bumper sticker I’ve ever had was snoo.

          I believed in them and wanted them to succeed. Moneu and power apparently corrupts.

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        For a lot of people, including me, reddit was the place they found community on the internet. After 10 years, it was familiar, it was comfortable… it was home.

        The money-grubbing, user-exploiting shifts in policy destroyed that sense of community, and that can’t not be personal.

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      Didn’t he make that decision after fanboying with Elon Musk?

      The reason these people are so rich is they’re sociopaths willing to grind their users to dust and sift their cremains through a sieve for their elemental nutrients. As a user experience designer, it’s abhorrent to watch, especially since I cared so much and had to give up my career. People like Musk and Hoffman making so much by exploiting people makes me incredibly angry.

      The wrong people have money.

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        SBF did good things with his money.

        And all HE had to do to get that money was run the world’s biggest ponzi scheme.