• protist@mander.xyz
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    5 months ago

    I’m not talking about references though. I’m also a manager, I’ve done tons of references, and most are glowing. I’m talking about employment verification, which HR often handles totally separate from the hiring manager. Obviously this is going to vary based on organization and policy, and the entire concept seems deeply unpopular here lol

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      5 months ago

      Employment verification isn’t allowed to answer personal questions which would include the text above. HR contacts HR with the question, “Was this person employed on X through X dates.” The reply is yes or no. The manager doesn’t get involved.

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        Employment verification can absolutely include a description of the separation, eg “resignation with notice,” “resignation without notice,” or “terminated for cause.” Lots of people saying this can’t be said, but no one has cited any source because it’s false

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          no one has cited any source

          What is your source?

          Quora has verified CEO’s and Professors saying only dates and position are given out by HR.

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              Your link isn’t relevant because it is about being fired, not quitting.

              But from your link:

              “Many organizations have policies that limit their staff to providing only dates of employment and job titles when inquiries are made about past employees. Others may be more willing to share information with prospective employers.”

              So your statement only applies to your situation as your link confirms.

              I hired people too. In only one situation where any ex employee was caught stealing from a client did I ever share anything negative. And that was only because the company who called was also a former customer.

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                I like how you end your post with an example of you doing the thing you’re saying companies don’t do lol

                Of course this varies by organization and policy, but it’s a real thing that many companies do. “Terminated with cause” aka fired is just one of several separation categories companies may share

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                  I wasn’t HR. It wasn’t HR calling HR to verify employment. It was a former customer calling for a reference. So yes it can happen that if that OP used the company as a reference, the former manager could take the call and say, “He quit without 2 weeks notice.” It isn’t standard as your own link confirmed. But that’s not hr verifying employment.

                  "Terminated with cause”

                  This wasn’t terminated with cause, fired or anything like that. The post is about an employee who quit. They are allowed to quit.

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                    I don’t know what you’re arguing against here, my entire point is that there are some companies that communicate separation status by policy, whether that’s “terminated for cause,” “resigned without notice,” or “resigned with notice,” and that “resigned without notice” can negatively impact job opportunities at some companies.

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      …the entire concept seems deeply unpopular here

      You’re simping for the bourgeoisie in !leftymemes. WTF did you expect?

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        Guess I’ll retreat to my hole and let the proletariat continuing giving each other tips on worsening their spiral into destitution