Learned about Lemmy from Reddit but never heard of kbin until recently. That said, I like the name Lemmy a lot more than the name kbin. kbin sounds like a hex editor for KDE, not a Reddit alternative. I love the open source community, but sometimes the names of projects leave much to be desired. Lemmy isn’t the perfect name but it’s more memorable than kbin.
Speaking about names. What the hell is a “magazine”?? It’s like the kbin devs went out of their way to ensure they named everything to be as confusing to outsiders as possible.
Kind of like how Lemmy made up communities? Lol you don’t call microblogs “toots” either. Seems every fediverse software has their own terminology.
Also it’s dev, singular. Kbin has been put together by only one dev. I personally find that damn impressive considering it’s functionally on par with Lemmy being only 2 months old to Lemmy’s 4 years.
Holy shit it all makes sense now! I’ve been seeing posts and comments randomly talking about magazines for ages now with absolutely no idea what any of them are going on about. Didn’t realise it was a Kbin thing. That’s one of the downsides of Federation I suppose, sometimes shit just gets weird.
kbin sounds like a hex editor for KDE
That’s what I needed to hear today. genius
I literally chose Lemmy instead of kbin because kbin sounds like a KDE app.
Really? Kbin as the name is what intrigued me initially over Lemmy. It’s actually inspired by Linux, the sbin directory to be specific.
Rust > PHP
Yes….on a technical level. But the picture is bigger than that. Personally, I have a hunch that the choice of Rust is making Lemmy’s development slower. This seemed to be evidenced by the fact that Kbin has more functionality than Lemmy while having only been around for 2 months. Vs Lemmy’s 4 years. The Kbin dev has also been much more able to fix things on the fly during the surge in users. Whereas Lemmy will supposedly move off websocket use any day now.
Adoptability isn’t something to be discounted. The fact that there any more people out there familiar with PHP may give Kbin an edge over time. And let’s be honest, in real-world test PHP can very often be faster then - less-than-mature-Rust codebase.
I was curious about Kbin until I read this comment.
Probably but anything > node.
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I liked both but ultimately joined Lemmy over kbin because it seems like there’s more interest in building mobile apps for Lemmy. (Currently using Jerboa) Also like that my Lemmy instance is based on renewable energy which is nice.
Started on lemmy. Haven’t gotten annoyed yet and can’t currently be bothered to try yet another new thing.
Same for me. Pure laziness.
I already put in a lot of time to figure this out, I need to rest for a bit before I jump into kbin.
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I’ll agree that calling communities “magazines” is weird.
The word reminds me of outdated (and overpriced) print periodicals or ammo holders. They may as well call them 8-tracks or cassettes. Maybe the word will evolve. “Sub” took on it’s own meaning after Reddit.
“Fetch” still isn’t happening, so we’ll see.
I tried Kbin and its way harder for me somehow searching other federated instanced content on Kbin than on lemmy.
It feels like for Kbin you need to go first to lets say Lemmy.world and then check the list and copy the names of each then search it.
on any lemmy instance i can simply search the things and find stuff of other instances way easier.
also Lemmy is like WAY bigger of user base posts and comments.
The syntax is slightly different in Kbin: @community
Also, you need to do it from the all magazines search bar.
That made it work.
I think lemmy looks nicer visually. I’ll probably give kbin a try at some point.
What a difference, we can talk to each other :F
I have accounts on 3 Lemmy instances and this one on kbin, right now I use kbin a bit more cause it‘s smoother for me, but if Lemmy apps mature faster I might use those more.
I never really got that attached to any of my Reddit accounts either, so that feels natural to me.
People started talking about the reddit API change and named lemmy as an alternative. So that’s the one I checked out. Didn’t here of kbin til I was already here.
Kbin just sounds cooler, dude.
I mean, lemmy - that’s just lame with extra steps. Eww. Yuck. Yucky. Not cool. Actual cringe, tbh. 🤢
Kbin. That’s like cool-beans, dude. Actually rad. And based. 😎
Who doesn’t want to be cool? I tell you, nerds, that’s who. Do you want to be a nerd? Didn’t think so.
Checkmate. Try proving me wrong (pro-tip: you can’t)Lemmy is one of the coolest musicians to ever live. There, I won the argument.
iirc Lemmy is God, so yeah
I like both. Currently on kbin because of the All bug on lemmy. My aim is to use both for a longer period.
Is that where the all section just constantly keeps loading more and more and more and you can’t even use it because it’s flying downwards?
I first was on Lemmy, now on kbin. Kbin is just a much more nicer experience. Also it’s not developed by tankies who glorify f*cking Mao Zedong. Simple as that.
The Lemmy devs claim the tankie thing was a claim by one Mastodon user with no proof. I keep people say they are, but haven’t seen anything yet to back it up. Including several comments where people have asked for proof. Is there any?
There was an Out of the Loop post that discussed this: https://lemmy.world/post/310513
Fair enough, but unless their politics influence the platform then there really isn’t an issue. So far they don’t, and there isn’t.
You were on lemmygrad?
I just looked a bit through the mastodon accounts of core developers.
More info: https://kbin.social/m/lemmyworld@lemmy.world/t/47012/-/comment/196579
The tankie thing keeps pushing me away from lemmy, but lemmy seems to be the only software getting clients at the moment. So I’m torn. I want an iOS client badly, but I don’t want to support tankies.
I suppose I shouldn’t sell out for a nice app though.
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I wouldn’t call supporting china and russia mentally sane lol
Not like they get money from that, they do get money from donations, but I don‘t think just using an open source product is support.
I use like hundreds of open source things and idk the ideology of any of the devs and I don‘t care, they could turn out to be serial killers, I don‘t see my use of their product as an issue. Monetary support is the difference to me.
Maybe I got some messed up morals though, wouldn’t be the first time.
Social networks, even open source ones are only successful if lots of people use them. The more people who join and contribute to the community, the more other people will find things that interest them and then join. Any engagement with the network increases it’s reach and therefore influence. If that network is run by tankies I’d rather not add to its power.
Lemmy is not ran by tankies, even if it may be developed by one - if the lead devs go off the rails, someone can always fork it and continue development elsewhere; and if any instance goes off the rails it can be defederated (and this is already happening!)
Not all Lemmy instances are run by the Lemmy devs, just lemmygrad and lemmy.ml afaik and since the code for lemmy is open and can be forked, I doubt they are influencing much beyond their own instances.
Honestly the kbin site works quite well on mobile and you can install it as a PWA
I agree it works well, but it annoys me that there seems to be no way to collapse comment threads, and on iOS, once you press a menu, it’s impossible to hide it again.
Lemmy, on the other hand, is a shitshow on iOS.
Check out https://kbin.social/m/kbinStyles for userscripts to help with stuff like collapsing comments
I’m torn as well. I find it easier to navigate Lemmy but Kbin’s interface feels much more polished.
As someone who wants to self-host an instance, which would you guys recommend? I’ve been reading through the documentation for both and Lemmy seems easier to install. Does anyone have experience with both? I’m interested to know how well they scale in terms of performance.
edit: And to add, I’m not a fan of kbin’s “microblog” and “magazine” is a strange word for “community”.
