The real problem is pronouns. We have to get rid of them. Nothing but proper nouns.
“George likes proper nouns in George’s sentences.”
Me, Grimlock, no see problem.
Me, Slag, say you full of beryllium baloney!
BOB DOLE!
George is getting upset!
If you stop having kids, who the fuck am I going to send to my war??
- ouR Congress
Drones. The answer is drones.
We still need kids to pilot the drones!
Nah, we just need kids to play war video games as training data for AI killing machines. Congress might pitch it as an AI jobs program.
Interesting twist to Ender’s Game.
Literally the plot of the Robin Williams movie Toys.
If they want a dick pick. All they have to do is ask.
I won’t judge.
if they did that you’d see them asking 6 year old kids
Too late.
You won’t judge who ask or who provides? Cause I’m kinda shy.
Just to clarify the point: Republicans only shriek about issues like transgenderism to put the focus on these non-issues, away from real issues like healthcare, poverty and inequality, war, climate change, etc…
Why aren’t the Democrats addressing those issues. Do they just shriek about other things? I feel like they shriek about the same things, actually, and that’s how culture war bullshit serves both “sides”, or should we say the two available flavours of neoliberalism.
- They are, but you aren’t looking.
- They’re pretty centrist so it won’t always be as aggressive as it should be.
- The GOP has literally, out loud, said in the past that their goal is to literally obstruct and vote down basically every single piece of Democrat legislation and there was a long time where two pretty rightwing fuckers were spending more time voting with Republicans than anything else and that really got in the way.
So, I dunno, pay more attention?
No, I’m not American and it’s already annoying how much I have to hear about US politics. Republicans are clearly much worse.
“It’s God’s judgement.”
Reprobate nation and all that stuff. It’s like lesbians causing hurricanes.
To them, these are - or can be - connected.
Funny how they never comment on the high rate of floods, drought and tornados in the Bible Belt.
That’s gods punishment on them for not fighting the gay agenda hard enough. Once all the gays are back in the closet and all the babies are forced to be born and all the schools are Christian, the tornadoes will stop.
Which is why these issues and the left identitarian fringe that pushes them to center stage are so problematic. It takes two to tango.
Of course those genitals are important! If they don’t do that, then their god will not magically fix said problems. They themselves are of course powerless to do anything about it. Far too busy lining their and their donors pockets!
If conservatives want to be a part of the solution, they can be. But they aren’t.
Newt Gingrich was the last Republican to create policy and even he is problematic.
Gingrich was a dick
Good fucking riddance.
I regret to inform you that he is still alive
Who served his wife divorce papers while she was in a hospital bed recovering from surgery!
And that’s not the worst of it!
https://www.cnn.com/2011/12/26/politics/gingrich-divorce-file/index.html
The only way conservatives can be part of the solution is if they take themselves out of the equation.
Newt may have been the last but that’s his own fault. He oversaw the GOP as it shifted from everyday “shitty conservatives” to insurrectionist nationalists.
I just want to make sure I get that off my chest. Newt heavily contributed to starting this. He’s the original McConnell. He wrote the playbook.
He also wrote the first republican purity test with the “Contract with America”, which started the repubs on their fanatical obsession with only having “true” repubs in office. He’s responsible for so much of what’s wrong nowadays, but so many people seem to have forgotten that.
Those of us that DO remember want him executed but Democrats and enlightened centrists keep telling me that we just need to win him over with better ideas while reaching across the aisle to join together in a spirit of bipartisan aloha.
He also wrote the first republican purity test with the “Contract with America”, which started the repubs on their fanatical obsession with only having “true” repubs in office. He’s responsible for so much of what’s wrong nowadays, but so many people seem to have forgotten that.
Newt Gingrich is a hypocritical piece of shit. Worried about the budget but wanted a capital gains tax cut. Worried about ethics but was fine violating basic ethics. Even when presented with evidence that violent crime was down in 2016, he didn’t want to go with the “theoriticians” (aka the facts) but instead went with his gut (aka bullshit). And he is an election denier. Fuck him.
The older I get the more apt this aphorism becomes:
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
They’ve missed the entire point. It’s about manufacturing outrage to distract from things people should really care about.
I’m gonna keep sending them pictures of my balls anyway.
The conservative question: “can I fuck it?”
“If we can’t fuck it, we kill it”
more cum for the cum god
“It’s fuckable, sure, but you’re safe. No one wants to fuck you.”
I’m all for being comfortable in your own skin. I get it. Life’s hard enough. But there’s a reason why your sex or gender at birth is important. How your body works genetically and how you feel are two different things. The conditions which led to your genetics may be a larger environmental issue and need to be accounted for.
Who asked for your trash opinion?
Trash opinion?
Do you think that knowing a person’s gender at birth is not important? Come on man.
It’s unimportant for literally everyone but them until puberty
And from that point on its their and their doctors problem
That data still has meaning.
How you feel about your gender, and your gender at birth are two very different data points.
Hey, I’ve got a novel idea. Stay out of other people’s pants. Ez PZ.
Don’t give a shit what’s in your pants. I just care if we have a data point that depends on people being born as X and they have condition Y. If you change your gender, you change X and that may fuck with the data.
So pulling an example out of my ass: if you are born male, have a condition for say colon cancer. You change your gender to be female. Your doctor does a colonoscopy and finds the cancer after the gender swap (sorry if not the best term). You’re now a female with colon cancer, but what if it was actually due to some genetic conditions from the male side? Changing it to female fucks with the data.
So the one percent of people who are trans are going to fuck up medical statistics? That’s your pathetic excuse for these comments? The most generous one can possibly be with you here is to say that’s a huge stretch. It’s certainly a weird thing to focus on.
Do you think that they don’t have your whole medical history? Like if they’re looking for a Y-chromosome associated cancer they’ll just pull up my surgical and prescription history and see “oh yeah that’s related” or they’ll order a karyotyping to ensure they’re correct because XY-AFAB people and XX-AMAB people aren’t *that^ rare of an intersex condition, especially as chimerism is downright common.
However what’s much more common is hormonally associated phenomena that aren’t extremely well known to be such. The most famous example is that after not very long on hormones trans people’s heart attack symptoms change to our hormonal sex’s. For a long time it was so rarely known amongst emergency room professionals that trans people were more likely to die of a heart attack.
But beyond this, that’s medical professionals and it’s a complicated discussion that’s currently happening in both the medical and trans communities by those who are affected most by it and those who are experts on these topics. What was clearly meant by this post was not that, but rather that people should feel 100% certain as to what is between the legs of every acquaintance and stranger they meet and that the government needs to know what each and every individual’s birth sex is.
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So adjust the data. That’s what science is. It’s always changing as we learn more about ourselves and our universe. Look, I’m really sorry that statistical conclusions drawn from inaccurate data aren’t helpful, but that’s true whether trans people exist or not.
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Science doesn’t need those data points though, as stated preciously, it’s not useful to anyone
Simple as
Then it isn’t helpful data to be collecting.
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Do I think it’s important for a medical doctor? Sure. Do I think it’s important for you to know? No. Why would it be?
I’m just curious, has any strangers’ genitalia impacted you in any way that actually matters? And no sports don’t count no one gives a shit about the .1% of athletes who are trans and how much of an AdVaNtAgE they have.
From where I’m sitting, people just need to shut the hell up about other people’s lives. They impact you in no way. Yet you impact their lives, taking their rights away and driving them to suicide. These types of comments literally contribute to suicide. Your comment could be the last straw for someone reading it, and they could choose to end their life because of you. And you sleep at night fine I’m sure. You should care about what that says about you.
Other people have hard lives and you don’t need to make them harder. Deal with your own shit. Let others do their best to deal with theirs.
People do give a shit about sports, because that’s what’s always in the news.
I don’t care what you do privately. If you want to engage in some competition though, there’s rules and regulations and it’s important that everyone is on an even playing field. That’s the whole point about the different divisions.
My comment about having different divisions because you genetically decided to modify yourself may cause someone to end their life? I don’t think so champ.
Think about women’s sports!
Which women’s sports do you play or watch ?No one truly cares about how a handful of trans athletes MaKe ThE gAmE uNfAiR. They like excuses to be cruel. You for example. Perfect evidence of that is that I point out the suicide rate and that the constant hate trans people are exposed to often causes them to commit suicide. You could not possibly give less of a fuck that you could be contributing to that. No self reflection whatsoever, even when a mirror is forced into your face. Brushed it away like it was absolutely not worth considering for a moment. You’re trash. You’re a liar. You’re grabbing onto a bullshit justification to spread hate.
I fight people and have opinions! Main thing right now being HEMA, mostly blunted axe + shield sparring. It’s mixed-gender and my experience is that men and women are pretty competitive with each other. I’ve also fenced competitively, which has male and female divisions but men and women practice against each other all the time. Across both sports, height is far, far more important than sex. Like if you’re 5’10", you inherently have an advantage in reaching your 5’6" opponent, whether they’re male or female. People focus on sex like it’s sufficient to equalize genetic advantages and “level the playing field” but think of the difference between the shortest man you know and the tallest man you know. Would you honestly say they’re on an even playing field in every sport because of their sex classification?
It really depends a lot on the sport, hormones and time do a lot more than you’d think, and male/female divisions aren’t a level playing field to begin with in many sports. Also sure, there is a reasonable discussion to have at a professional level, but in most sports at anything less than the most elite level it’s such a non issue. Anyone pushing to police it in kids’ sports via genital inspection has lost their minds.
This comment feels like it’s from 2017 or something. If you’ve spent any amount of time on social media in the last few years, you know damn well how this comment would be responded to.
If trans athletes are causing a serious, quantifiable disruption in competitive sports, to the point you can direct me to multiple bodies of evidence that clearly show a trend of cis athletes being overshadowed, then, and only then will I agree there is a problem.
But there isn’t.
There was no reason to impose restrictions on trans athletes before there is any data to suggest they were a problem. They only reason is prejudice.
And the same goes for trans people in gendered bathrooms or any of the other shit people come up with as hypothetical problems for pearl clutching. You can imagine all kinds of ways gender could have “environmental” impacts. “Could” is the key word. We’re not going to operate on “could”. I want “is”.
Show me the trends. Show me the data. Show me where it’s a quantifiable problem first, then we’ll talk.
You need to protect the idea that people competing in a specific league don’t have any advantages.
Imagine if LeBron changed his gender and began competing in the WNBA. Do you think he’d magically suck, or would he dominate? This doesn’t magically change the 38 years of training that he has done as a male. It’s not a hard concept. When thinking about these things, you need to think about these edge cases because that is what is going to get abused.
strawman argument 101: what if EXTREME EXAMPLE happened? this should dictate how we treat all levels of competition because (???)
you act as if being trans is a choice made at a whim, and can be easily made to take advantage of a situation. obviously if some major athlete came out there would be more than just “oh she competes in the womens league now”, but we dont have to talk about that because that is such a worthless strawman argument
how will this affect lebrons legacy
You need to consider edge cases when making the rules. You can’t just ignore them and hope that people don’t abuse them.
I’m not acting like being trans is a choice. I want competitions to be in as level of a playing field as possible. Competing in sports is a choice though.
The edge case is called that for a reason, dictating every level of competition based on edge cases is how you push a narritive
Let olympic athletes and organizers sort out how they want to handle the .01% of athletes that are trans, basically every other level of competition it doesnt fuckin matter. The only reason its brought up 99% of the time is to push a transphobic narritive and i am so fucking sick of it
Ok, you have no idea what you’re talking about. Not everything is transphobic.
You can’t just make rules that are like “this is allowed unless Nikki@lemmy.world thinks it provides an unfair advantage”.
You don’t make rules and just hope and pray people don’t find edge cases and abuse it.
the issue is bringing bigoted government legislation into what should be exclusively top level competition. you and i both know that ted cruz (example) isnt gonna be playing touchy when it comes to taking away our rights
if its just the top level people deciding what an advantage is, in just high level sport, then fair. but letting that seep down to collage, high school, and below is a path to genetal inspections on teens and children
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It’s not that simple. Brains and exterior bodies are not necessarily coordinated like that, and bodies themselves take a myriad of forms.
Don’t be fooled by those saying “there are only Men and Women and That’s That.” It’s not true.
I don’t care the actual values. In fact, I want people to be happy so whatever you need to do to achieve that go ahead and do it.
I apologize if the following sentences aren’t exactly PC, don’t mean any harm by them.
I care about the values for other reasons. Say someone was born male, undergoes HRT and becomes female. Due to their birth genetics, they are more likely to get X disease. They have no health issues, undergo HRT or whatever, and then the disease is found. So now they are a female with X disease.
That data is very different. That’s all I care about.
I don’t think keeping lists of trans people is particularly good social awareness for stupidly obvious reasons: There’s a lot of people who would see such a list as a list of targets.
Realistically, most medical staff will be aware of commonalities. For instance in your example the specialist that treats "X’ disease will notice fairly quickly if a majority of their patients are trans especially since maybe up to 2% of the population is trans.
People are more than just data points.
How the fuck does that make it any business of anyone other than your motherfucking doctor, and even then, significantly less often than you’ve convinced yourself of? (seriously - if your GP keeps asking you about your genitals every time you go in to see them, you should report them and find a new one, E: never mind them even knowing your chromosomic or genetic or even hormonal make up)
You’re just a wilfully ignorant transphobe trying to pretend they aren’t one.
But you are.
And if that bothers you - you can just stop being one! I guarantee its easier than being a miserable hateful little bigot, no need for all that mental gymnastics, for starters…
Otherwise - fuck off back up your own ass…
I don’t care about your gender at birth. Really don’t. I do think that your gender at birth has significance. If you were born a male with certain genetic factors, and you change your gender to female later in life, it is very important to know that you were born male with factors X Y Z and not female. It’s not a tough concept.
If you were born
a malewith certain genetic factors,and you change your gender to female later in life, it is very important to know that you were bornmalewith factors X Y Zand not female. It’s not a tough concept.No, it isn’t a tough concept, you’re just a bigot. ¯\(ツ)/¯
I noticed that I edited my reply just as you posted this, so I’ll add this here because you made the exact leap I knew you would - does your doctor know your chromosomes? DNA? Have you ever even had your hormones tested? The answer is almost certainly “no”, because most people don’t, because those things are hardly ever relevant, and if they are, it isn’t because someone is trans (E: in most cases, anyway).
No matter how many ridiculous leaps you make, and how many times you swear you don’t care about gender at birth or whatever:
You
Are
A
TransphobeNo one gets tested for it because it’s very rare for it to not match up with your assigned sex at birth. Why spend hundreds of dollars on a test when you can just ask someone and get things right over 90% of the time? In recent years, doctors have always asked for both gender identity and assigned sex at birth, presumably because both are medically relevant.
But the OP is clearly not about medical data for healthcare purposes.
I’m not a transphobe lol. I don’t give a shit about it. I want you to be happy as a person, and you do you.
I don’t want incorrect conclusions being drawn from a shitty dataset due to people changing their gender at birth. You were born with a certain sex. You can’t change that, no matter how hard you try. That information is also valuable, there may be trends that affect a specific sex more. If you change your gender, you could pollute that dataset and lead to incorrect conclusions drawn.
Not everyone hates transpeople. Just because someone has a different opinion than you doesn’t mean they hate transpeople. Take a second to get off your high horse and actually think about the concepts I have commented about.
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it is false to say the disease affected an XX-person.
Give one example of anything like this ever happening.
Why are you so incapable of learning?
Incapable of learning what? Why are you so incapable of thinking of ideas that go against what you believe?
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“I went into a trans friendly post with my transphobic talking points and people were rude to me! I am very upset about this and there is no way I could have seen this coming or prevented it!”
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You’re totally right. But the meme is probably referencing the fact that Republicans seem to care a lot about sex and gender when it comes to kids sports, or sports in general. That comes off worse considering Republican states are banning transgender treatment, or allowing conversion therapy. Seems like they really don’t like the LGBT community and try to hide it behind “health” related or “sports equality” related reasons.
Ok? Great? The post is missing the fact that whatever genitals you’re born with at birth is actually an important fact.
As you grow up, if you feel you are X instead of Y, great Good for you. That doesn’t change the environmental conditions that led to your birth.
Also with sports, the issue is with the league “names”. Create an “open” division where anyone can compete. Then create a division that’s biological females only. You think there’s no genetic advantage to someone who was a male for 30 years and then changed their gender (sorry if this isn’t worded the best). The issue here is creating a fair playing field for everyone.
create a division that’s biological females only.
As a trans man, I see this as an absolute win. /s
I’m just making a pedantic joke btw. I’m assuming you’re talking about cis women.
It’s clear that Joe is just a transphobe hiding behind “Oooo technically important oooo” ignoring the fact that the fascists want to check children’s genitals not for any of those “important” reasons
Get the fuck out of here.
I don’t care what you choose to identify as. But your gender at birth is an important data point.
You keep saying that but never giving a fucking logical reason. Reading your schizophrenic replies is getting old.
Explain, why it’s fucking important. Saying its important doesn’t make it so.
No it’s not.
It’s not? So there’s no medical conditions which affect men more than women?
Interesting, interesting.
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wanting to probe my genitals while not being my doctor is transphobic, that is the only person who would EVER have to see my genitals. anything more is a sign of a serious issue, words cannot describe the discomfort that would cause me, and im a grown adult.
If they were talking about that set it would be useful to specify that set. But of course that would mean using icky terms like “cis” instead of denying the humanity and even biological existence of trans people. Can’t be having that, now.
The women’s sports that they care so highly about at this time for some reason. Next they’ll probably talk about some hypothetical niece that plays sports and “whatever will she do” in sports with the trans
Yes?
If there’s no genetic advantage for men, why did Chess have separate divisions?
You must be a troll account because a human capable of literacy asking that question honestly is beyond comprehension.
I’m not. Go ahead and answer the question.
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If there’s no genetic advantage for men, why did Chess have separate divisions?
The ACTUAL answer is misogyny. Chess was(and still is tbh) a very misogynistic “sport” back in the day, and many male professional chess players refused to play against women, and the ones that did play against them were often crude. To try and get more women interested in chess, women only divisions were created. It has literally nothing to do with genetic advantages.
Lol ok. So the top classical femalechess player has an elo of 2628. The top male is 2830. That’s a huge difference.
I can’t speak for chess, but in gaming where there’s similarly no sex advantage, female gamers are rarely seen at the higher levels because the environment is very hostile towards them. Creating a separate women’s league would alleviate this to some degree and encourage more women to actually try to reach for the top.
So in esports there are also distinct female divisions. I haven’t seen a female team play a male team in Dota2, CS, LoL, any fighting games, etc.
Because the field is known to be hostile to women and filled with creepy incels? Have you SEEN how they act anytime a “female gamer” pops up?
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I’m confused, what are you saying?
So the comment chain reference sports having different divisions for men and women.
These generally depend on a physical difference between men and woman.
Why would a sport which removed all physicality, still have separate divisions?
I dunno, why?
You are missing the fact that this issue is so unimportant and that even talking about it when everything else is on fire is… well… kind of moronic tbh.
It is but unfortunately ignoring it just leads to our rights being stripped more
So I get there’s important social issues around gender. But at the same time people are so caught up in how they feel that they miss out on the important fact that your gender at birth means more than what you want your gender to be. There may be environmental issues which are dependent on your gender at birth.
There may be environmental issues which are dependent on your gender at birth.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by this and why it’s important? I don’t understand how your gender at birth affects the environment in any way that matters.
So there may be specific issues that are related to genetics. I don’t really work in that field, but let’s say that in a certain area, males more likely to have X disease and it shows after 30. So like colon cancer or something.
If they go and change their gender to female, how does it affect those stats? Are they suddenly less likely to experience those issues?
I honestly don’t give a shit about how you identify. I want you to be comfortable.
I still don’t see how that’s relevant to the environment. I’m guessing you just misspoke there.
Good science will consider your assigned sex at birth for these stats where relevant. No one is disputing the value of having that information and no one has problems with it because this data is all anonymized. The problem that the OP is referring to is when this data is collected without anonymization and used to bring harm to specific people based on their medical records. There’s no reason for anyone besides your doctor to have access to your medical records. Scientific studies require explicit consent to get that data.
“means more” isn’t a factual statement, it’s a value judgement and some people value being the best version of themselves more than they value leading a miserable existence because of their genetics. Environmental issues are also just that: results of the environment rather than innate expression of X or Y chromosomes. The point the OP post is making is that instead of focusing on economic policies, global warming, and wars, politicians are more focused on who decides they’d be happier as a man/woman/non binary person. It’s a complete waste of time for everyone BUT doctors and researchers since we shouldn’t be judging or limiting what people can do based on what genitals they were born with, and instead be focusing on how to fix massive, glaring, and disastrous issues such as the ones described in the post.
You need to get out of your small town you’ve never left and meet some people who are more educated who can help you.
Nice assumption about my life! You probably shouldn’t make such dumb assumptions about someone you know nothing about!
I know I’m not wrong just by reading this.
But there’s a reason why your sex or gender at birth is important. How your body works genetically and how you feel are two different things. The conditions which led to your genetics may be a larger environmental issue and need to be accounted for.
Incredible how often when a transphobe is asked to explain these ‘important reasons’ it literally relates to games. I’m taking about grown adults, so deeply concerned about games with balls that checking whether children who play have balls is now a fixation.
But there’s a reason why your sex or gender at birth is important.
Sure, ok.
The point of this meme is: is it really more important than all of those issues listed? Is having a slightly skewed dataset (which will not happen because people that ACTUALLY need to, know that) more important than healthcare itself being a complete disaster?
I’m not sure how preventing someone from changing the sex they were born with is at all related to healthcare being a complete disaster, but alright.
They’re not related. The point of the meme is that, even among those extremely important issues that permeate the entire society, the thing republicans choose to focus their efforts on is this boogeyman fight against trans people.
Why is that the most important thing on their minds when a ridiculous amount of people are in crippling debt just because of health reasons and the whole planet is slowly turning into a frying pan?
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Isn’t that literally the point of the post?
Oh no someone doesn’t agree with me! https://tenor.com/bjl8N.gif
You’re right, it’s important for your doctor to know that stuff. And no one else.
Meh. The illusion is starts to fade at the mention of student debt and totally broken with the word “ecosystems”. Need to dial up the conservative and make it about how jobs don’t pay enough or how much you have to run the AC now days. Also, not sure about the war part being bad in a conservative view, rather it’s that we don’t really win wars anymore.
When it’s a conservative president: We are protecting our country from brown people.
When it’s a democratic president: we are wasting funds attacking no-name countries instead of making gas cheaper
We need to make gas more expensive
Me when asked to sign a petition to repeal the gas tax.
Consider the identitarian left. The world is on fire. Nuclear holocaust looms over us. Mass extinction. Runaway AI is imminent. We really need to focus on upending the apple cart of sexual identity and relations right now.
Yes. There’s never a reason to stop pushing for more freedom. Happy, educated people make a better society. Keeping people who are different form you silent and miserable so you don’t have to have your feelings hurt by being reminded not everyone is like you doesn’t make the world a better place, it just gives more power to the people who are pushing all of those bad things you mentioned onto us.
No. Fixating on radical issues and demanding complete obedience alienates moderates. Anyone who believes in national borders or some importance of biological sex is unwelcome in many Left circles. The only reason The Right has any traction right now is people who are fed up with radical wokeism. I’m a moderate liberal, and I’m just tired of fighting over trendy fringe issues when we need to focus on existential problems.
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Low Quality Facts, @lowqualityfacts…
For the sake of empathy, I ask you all to take a second to consider things from the perspective of Conservatives:
Inflation is out of control. Housing is unaffordable. The healthcare system is broken. Everyone is drowning in student debt. Ecosystems are collapsing. We’re constantly on the brink of war.
So naturally, one would ask, how can we even hope to solve these daunting and complex issues if we do not have detailed information on the genitals of every American citizen?
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hey as a trans person, respectfully, fuck off. we aren’t gonna win our rights by “spreading kindness”, we win them by pushing for laws protecting us. until i am not virtually banned in half of the states in my country, i am not appeasing bigoted assholes just to meet halfway on my human rights
the revolution will be won in thigh highs
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I wouldn’t call “Telling people the oppression they experience doesn’t exist” spreading kindness…
Shoot fascists and they will cease to exist
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If you weren’t taught, you won’t know.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/transgender-woman-from-nelson-house-attacked-1.3951040
“He started making fun of [a] friend for hanging out with me, saying, ‘Oh I didn’t know you were gay, I didn’t know you were a fag’,” she said.
As an activist for the LGBT community, Spence spoke up for herself and the man she was talking with.
Spence says it escalated quickly and the man punched her in the face. So, Spence says she punched him back and suddenly other people descended on her.
“One thing led to another and I was on the ground and the three of them were kicking me in the face,” she said.
“They were saying things like, ‘Faggot, tranny, bitch.’ Really, really mean things, like misogynistic things.”
While she was being attacked, Spence said she wasn’t sure she was going to make it out alive. While the beating felt like forever, her friends later told her it lasted about three minutes.
Was the attacker in this story “not taught” it’s not acceptable to assault people? Should the trans person have been calmly teaching him “this is unacceptable” as she was getting punched in the face?
If people need to be taught “punching people in the face is wrong” then they need to be locked up until they learn that, it’s not the roll of the general public.
I have feelings about this, hopefully my venting can explain why this expectation pisses people off. Explaining this shit can be exhausting and just existing as someone who’s trans leads to deeply probing questions both about trans people at large and also you specifically. Depending on context, they can be harmless or even supportive in intent. But too often they lead to more icky questioning, disparaging remarks, threats, abandonment, and… so on. Even in harmless cases it’s fucking traumatic. I do have some cis friends who ask me completely appropriate questions, but I trust them because they’re respectful of my boundaries. Most aren’t.
yes, taking the time to level with people, educate, etc is a good ideal, but speaking from experience it’s not something everyone can be expected to do right off the bat. The consequences of attempting to do so and receiving abuse in return can be too close to deep psychological wounds that require time to heal.
do consider there’s less of us in general too. and explaining parts of the trans experience take walls of text like this one lol. In an ocean of bullshit, we can only do so much to bail ourselves out. We need help, or at the least, we need some baseline levels of empathy and respect from the people we’re trying to educate. Or at the absolute least try not to blame us when we’re grumpy or skittish about it.
Why couldn’t there be a party that people vote and also that has sane economic policies AND sane social policies? Why do the tribes have to be “good at one thing, horrible at the other”?
