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    If the primary and the off-cycle elections are any indication, we’re going to see a big downturn in participation - particularly among Biden’s left wing base - as enthusiasm for another four years of Republican Lite administration tanks out.

    This 1000%. You can’t keep treating leftists as a bigger enemy than the Republicans and expect them to keep voting for you just so we move 2 inches right instead of 4.

    EDIT: Look at all the democrats treating leftists as a bigger enemy than the Republicans. If leftists are the ones keeping you from winning, maybe it’s time to start moving your policy left instead of bullying them while you sprint right to court “centrists” that we all know will NEVER vote for a Democrat as long as they live.

    A vote for Democrats isn’t a vote against fascism, it’s a vote for fascism in 4 years instead of now.

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      So you’d rather move 100 yards right in your analogy then by ensuring a Trump victory. Got it.

      If you want to be an indignant self-righteous leftist deciding to not vote, don’t be surprised when you don’t get a chance to vote for a leftist candidate four years from now, or ever. You’re acting like a petulant child over an extremely important election just because you can’t get EXACTLY what you want.

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        Hey look, a Democrat treating leftists as a bigger enemy than the Republicans while expecting us to vote for them so we move 60 yards right instead of 100. 🤷

        If leftists are the reason democrats can’t pull a win as yall can’t stop having an aneurysm screaming at us about, maybe it’s time you move your policies left instead of bullying us at every turn as you sprint further right chasing “centrists” we all know will NEVER vote for a dem.

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          You need to watch Beau of the Fifth Column.

          If you want to build a leftist movement it has to start local. Run for the school board. Build a community network

          Don’t let the fascists win because of the Democrats not being left enough.

          You build the coalition from the bottom up, not from the top down.

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            I vote against fascism,and I vote against genocide. You give me a Democratic candidate that can do better than “I sidestep congress to fund genocide instead of sidestepping congress to commit genocide” and I’ll vote for them. 🤷

            I can’t get over the fact that yall claim to be the “good guys” by backing full fascism in 4 years instead of this year. It’s still fascism my guy. Yall keep yelling at us that it’s OUR fault for not backing local antifascism, but SPOILERS - YOU’RE THE ONES BACKING FASCISTS.

            You keep backing fascism then taking some sort of high ground for doing so. Get the fuck out of here. YOU ARE THE BAD GUYS BECAUSE YOU’RE STILL VOTING FOR FASCISM. You don’t magically become the good guy for voting fascist locally as well as nationally.

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              I read your comment five times over and still don’t know what point you’re trying to make. It seems like you’re insistent on being contrarian and using the “both sides” argument we got bank in 2016. Luckily, being through it once made us smarter. Good try, though.

              Tell your troll farm buddies to your left and right that we say hi.

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                and using the “both sides” argument

                You mean like how you keep telling everyone the only way to avoid the guy who wants to sidestep congress to enable genocide is the guy who sidestepped congress multiple times to enable genocide?

                You can accuse me of being a troll all you want, but you’re the one arguing the only thing that can save us from the far right is moving the mid right further right. GTFO with that shit. 😂

                But hey, thanks for adding more evidence to my original point that leftists are far more your enemy than Republicans ever were.

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                You guys need to drop the “liberals” are going to a camp garbage. If the already thinning out Republicans try to attack urban areas in the US they just set themselves for utter defeat as the Spanish attack them from the south, White Americans from the West and East, and Canadians from the North. 30% of Americans will live in the middle of nowhere aren’t coming to put us in camps.

                Tldr: Stop threatening me with a good time.

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      Yep go ahead and either not vote or make a protest vote. Just remember your lgbtq friends in the camps.

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        You shoulda thought of that when you kept voting BNMW and never getting of your fucking couches. And when the xamos start filling up you’ll still be on your fucking couches.