• PeepinGoodArgs
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    5 months ago

    Whatever.

    Feel superior to Trump supporters. Know you’re right and they’re definitely wrong. Be morally superior to them because you have a connection to reality they definitely and obviously don’t have. Your logic over their intuition; your facts over their emotions, your reality over their delusion.

    When they vote for a fascist dictator that throws American democracy back to a state of nature because they feel marginalized and unheard and seek…well, they are…thanks to your bullshit stereotypes.

    Only the most morally degrading cowardice for liberals and conservatives alike.

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      But you’re already doing this – you make it clear that the wrong thing to do is electing the fascist dictator, and the good thing to do is whatever you can to prevent that.

      Your argument is effectively what? Don’t think you’re better than the people doing the wrong thing, because then they’ll do the wrong thing?

      This isn’t 2016. Trump is a known quantity. His diehard supporters are a lost cause, and we should stop pretending otherwise. Frankly, those who say “you’re being mean to them so I’m voting for Trump” are a lost cause as well. Fascism cannot be beaten through lukewarm rejection.

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      They are not doing this because we are saying they’re are doing it, we are pointing it out because it is what they are doing. They are not victims, as much as they want to claim it. Some of these people are legit terrorists, threatening violence to progress a political agenda. They are cheering for a dictatorship. They are cheering to take away fundamental rights. They are cheering for suffering because they think it’s okay, it’s not happening to them. These people have protested alongside white supremacy groups. There is not a mistake about who these people are on the inside.

      Fuck these people, you are not going to find sympathy for them here.

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      I’m sorry, you’re claiming that evangelicals, the majority chunk of Trump supporters, are marginalized, unheard and unseen?

      Because we refuse to listen to their bullshit?

      When a school bully harasses other students, do you shush the victim and console the bully? “But the bully feels like we hate them” well gee, maybe they should stop being an asshole.

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        5 months ago

        you’re claiming that evangelicals, the majority chunk of Trump supporters, are marginalized, unheard and unseen?

        No. I’m claiming that the majority of Trump’s support is as tentative my support for Biden, which seems him as the preferable alternative at most. Alienating people you have common ground with is evidently a losing strategy, and yet republican and democratic politicians and normal people alike seem hell bent on ensuring talking about stuff is always out of reach

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          Ah, so you’d be the type to say “the majority of Nazis were only going along with Hitler because he was preferred over his competition. You shouldn’t be alienating Nazis who have common ground with you.”

          Not normally the type to pull out a nazi/hitler comparison, but seems to fit too well here.