• Telorand
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    6 months ago

    The grassroots efforts are the only reason Dems enjoying their recent victories. Hard-working people who want to see progress. We’d be looking at a red Congress if not for them, and I look forward to when the DNC is irrelevant, too.

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      Grassroots movements have been getting shit on since at least the 70’s trying to get people to vote for the lesser of two evil parties. Look where we ended up.

      It’s crazy to me people keep trying to fix the Democratic party instead of just letting that corrupt tower of shit collapse. You got people like Hillary Clinton at the top. Nothing will ever change there but a little bread and circus here and there.

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        It’s crazy to me people keep trying to fix the Democratic party instead of just letting that corrupt tower of shit collapse.

        I agree, but I don’t know how we could do that and not essentially hand the election to Republicans. Republicans might be shit, but since at least the Southern Strategy, they’ve created a reliable voting bloc who vote based on party affiliation, personality, or single issues.

        The only way forward I can see is to incrementally change the foundation (from local up), so that toppling the top doesn’t have such a dramatic effect.

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          If you’re never willing to lose one election then nothing will change.

          The democratic party is just like the republican one extremely rotten from the inside. The people at the top

          You see people at the white house quitting left right and center right now, all saying that trying to change the existing system has been a waste of decades of their life and they have just given up on it.

          https://youtu.be/2htDCcqDW0I?si=4C9aXziHgs3CfYkM

          You cannot change a power structure from the bottom if the people at the top have proven to be unwilling for change.

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            Sure you can. It’s already happening. Just look at all the local wins we just had. Even if we have to build something better from the inside out, that’s the only way forward, imo.

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              Local wins sure. At the small scale you can do a shuffle here and there. But at the top there are certain rules such as forced support of israel and they will immediately shut down any dissedence and protest against them.

              Maybe this video of the same guy that just quit where he goes in depth about it will provide you more insight.

              https://youtu.be/1w9fAgaUBrw?si=jf6rUAannj9ZSF01

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        Completely agree, the DNC is far too corrupt to change from within. We need to let them fail, and fail hard, to drive home the need for a new progressive party. This could happen within one election cycle, but thanks to the extremely dangerous game played by these establishment politicians, that likely means Trump 2.0. We’ve been put in an impossible position but I also think there’s no better time than now.