What is honor? Seriously, honor is such a vague, ever changing term that you could mean a hundred different things by that. Is it honorable to run a business that provides free meals to hundreds of people a month, even if that business relies upon the extraction of surplus value from workers, which is the very system that leads to the need for the very charity they provide?
Is education honorable? Is all education honorable regardless of intention? Is intention the only qualifier for honor, or conversely, is outcome the only important factor, or is it a mix of both? If someone is honorable in deed but dishonorable in intention, should they be both honored and dishonored? If one behaving in an honorable fashion accidentally leads to a worse outcome than had they acted selfishly, should we still honor them? Conversely, if behaving in a dishonorable fashion leads to objectively better outcomes for a majority of people, is that worthy of honor?
What I’m getting at is, morality is rarely so simple as simple catch phrases like that imply.
I have spent a lot of time on moral philosophy, and I only have more questions than when I started.
I’m not confused about honor, I’m telling you that honor is definitively subjective, and by itself cannot be the basis of any rational morality. That you presume it is a simple matter tells me you have not done much to interrogate it, at least in any meaningful way.
What does Justice mean to you? Is there such a thing?
It seems to me, and correct me if I’m wrong but you’ve shown nothing to prove the contrary, but it seems to me that you’ve not really done any research into morality at all.
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What is honor? Seriously, honor is such a vague, ever changing term that you could mean a hundred different things by that. Is it honorable to run a business that provides free meals to hundreds of people a month, even if that business relies upon the extraction of surplus value from workers, which is the very system that leads to the need for the very charity they provide?
Is education honorable? Is all education honorable regardless of intention? Is intention the only qualifier for honor, or conversely, is outcome the only important factor, or is it a mix of both? If someone is honorable in deed but dishonorable in intention, should they be both honored and dishonored? If one behaving in an honorable fashion accidentally leads to a worse outcome than had they acted selfishly, should we still honor them? Conversely, if behaving in a dishonorable fashion leads to objectively better outcomes for a majority of people, is that worthy of honor?
What I’m getting at is, morality is rarely so simple as simple catch phrases like that imply.
I have spent a lot of time on moral philosophy, and I only have more questions than when I started.
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I’m not confused about honor, I’m telling you that honor is definitively subjective, and by itself cannot be the basis of any rational morality. That you presume it is a simple matter tells me you have not done much to interrogate it, at least in any meaningful way.
What does Justice mean to you? Is there such a thing?
It seems to me, and correct me if I’m wrong but you’ve shown nothing to prove the contrary, but it seems to me that you’ve not really done any research into morality at all.
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