So, you’re extrapolating your entire worldview based on experiences you had during school, a period of most people’s life notorious for tribalist cliques and irrational behaviors? School sucked for me too, that’s why I finished and didn’t go back. I’ve had all the classics, I’ve been pantsed, had a swirly, been physically beaten, robbed, stolen from, rumors spread about me, catfished before catfishing was a term, etc etc.
School sucks, the structure of it sucks, it encourages such behaviors and is filled with hierarchies and domination. The banking model of education is inherently flawed and hinders development of critical thinking and empathy, for sure. That doesn’t mean that all of humanity is that way though.
You say you’ve never even been to a social event outside of school, and that you have no mutual compatibility with actionsanyone. You have no hobbies you could share with anyone, nor do you believe there is anyone with a shared experience of school that might be a potential point of rapport? What do you do when you go to the book store, do you glare at the cashier because of your assumptions regarding them? Or do you greet them warmly and ask them how they are with genuine desire to know?
And whether or not I am your friend, you are my comrade. I care about unique, interesting people, and while we may not share a worldview, you most certainly are a unique and interesting person.
Yes, much like the rest of society, but not all societies, neither current nor historical. The question is not how humans came to such point, but rather how we became stuck here. It is my opinion that such views that neglect the majority of human history based on extrapolation from individual circumstances, and ascribe immutable traits to human nature, are a big part of that How. Human nature can be whatever you want, certainly I’m not going to change your mind, but human nature is mutable and evolves in response to the material conditions of a society. Human nature was definitively non-sedentary, yet, the majority of humans in developed countries are increasingly becoming so. Human nature among those described in Baron Lahontan’s New Voyages to North America was significantly different to the nature of the Europeans of the time, and the nature of African slaves was counter to the nature of American slavers at the time.
Human behavior is not without patterns, however, to state definitively that there is a single human nature is to ignore the majority of the evidence present within human history. I don’t fault anyone for doing so mind you, as the banking model of education does not allow for nuanced understanding of historical events, and perpetuates a-historical Great Man histories while ignoring the history of the vast majority of the population of any given society. We’re not often taught of any historical examples of alternative forms of organization, especially not those that do not lend themselves to Great Man of History narratives.
Are you aware of the structure of and democratic nature of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy? Or of the concept of schizmogenesis? Or how historically what exactly is considered “human nature” has varied and depended primarily on societal structures that themselves relied upon relationships to the dominant mode of production?
What specific aspects of human nature do you believe are so powerful that there is no examples whatsoever in 200,000 years of human history that disprove them?
Then you hold multiple contradicting viewpoints simultaneously, because the field of psychology has not posited to have unanimously solved “What is human nature”.
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So, you’re extrapolating your entire worldview based on experiences you had during school, a period of most people’s life notorious for tribalist cliques and irrational behaviors? School sucked for me too, that’s why I finished and didn’t go back. I’ve had all the classics, I’ve been pantsed, had a swirly, been physically beaten, robbed, stolen from, rumors spread about me, catfished before catfishing was a term, etc etc.
School sucks, the structure of it sucks, it encourages such behaviors and is filled with hierarchies and domination. The banking model of education is inherently flawed and hinders development of critical thinking and empathy, for sure. That doesn’t mean that all of humanity is that way though.
You say you’ve never even been to a social event outside of school, and that you have no mutual compatibility with
actionsanyone. You have no hobbies you could share with anyone, nor do you believe there is anyone with a shared experience of school that might be a potential point of rapport? What do you do when you go to the book store, do you glare at the cashier because of your assumptions regarding them? Or do you greet them warmly and ask them how they are with genuine desire to know?And whether or not I am your friend, you are my comrade. I care about unique, interesting people, and while we may not share a worldview, you most certainly are a unique and interesting person.
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Yes, much like the rest of society, but not all societies, neither current nor historical. The question is not how humans came to such point, but rather how we became stuck here. It is my opinion that such views that neglect the majority of human history based on extrapolation from individual circumstances, and ascribe immutable traits to human nature, are a big part of that How. Human nature can be whatever you want, certainly I’m not going to change your mind, but human nature is mutable and evolves in response to the material conditions of a society. Human nature was definitively non-sedentary, yet, the majority of humans in developed countries are increasingly becoming so. Human nature among those described in Baron Lahontan’s New Voyages to North America was significantly different to the nature of the Europeans of the time, and the nature of African slaves was counter to the nature of American slavers at the time.
Human behavior is not without patterns, however, to state definitively that there is a single human nature is to ignore the majority of the evidence present within human history. I don’t fault anyone for doing so mind you, as the banking model of education does not allow for nuanced understanding of historical events, and perpetuates a-historical Great Man histories while ignoring the history of the vast majority of the population of any given society. We’re not often taught of any historical examples of alternative forms of organization, especially not those that do not lend themselves to Great Man of History narratives.
Are you aware of the structure of and democratic nature of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy? Or of the concept of schizmogenesis? Or how historically what exactly is considered “human nature” has varied and depended primarily on societal structures that themselves relied upon relationships to the dominant mode of production?
What specific aspects of human nature do you believe are so powerful that there is no examples whatsoever in 200,000 years of human history that disprove them?
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And what specifically are some examples of the sum total of what we cannot change? I’m asking you, not psychology.
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Then you hold multiple contradicting viewpoints simultaneously, because the field of psychology has not posited to have unanimously solved “What is human nature”.
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