• kandoh
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    Why respect a Genocidal maniac for stepping down only when forced to do so?

    Because the alternative is they don’t step down.

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      Except no, that’s not the alternative. The party gets to choose the candidate. Biden tried to stay and they told him to get out the easy or the hard way.

      You must have forgotten Biden not holding a primary.

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        If you think Biden could’ve been forced out if he wasn’t willing to step down then you don’t know anything about politics.

        I bet you were one of those people demanding the sergeant at arms arrest people who ignored subpoenas during Trump’s first impeachment.

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            Do you know how Democrat canidates are picked? Biden already had enough pledged delegates to win the nomination.

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              Not holding a primary before the Democratic National Conventionis one way to try to coup it, but they could still just put in someone else in.

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                They did hold a primary. You might have not liked how they ran it. I had my own issues with it as well, but they did and once those votes are in the pledged delegates have to honor the winner from it, which Biden was. Tell me how they could have just taken it away from him without him stepping down again?

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                  Biden pretended he was going to be a 1 term president but now tried to hijack it for a dual term.

                  Biden could give an official order to have anyone speaking out against him shot. Doesn’t mean he will. But he can. Same goes for the voting honor system. We’re just expecting nobody to break the unwritten rules. but unwritten rules that will get broken when needed.

                  Like how the white house will straight up lie about a Genocide being committed in order to violate Leahy law.

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                    Biden pretended he was going to be a 1 term president but now tried to hijack it for a dual term.

                    Do you have a source for this? I seem to recall that was one article citing an off the record source within the Biden campaign, not an official statement from Biden.

                    Should be easy for you to find Biden himself saying this, as you’re so well informed and definitely not a ball sniffer with west wing delusions

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          They openly ditch him during the convention.

          Donors already pulled out. Establishment called for him to step down voluntarily. if he doesn’t listen he doesn’t magically get to stay.

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            You don’t know the (binding!) DNC rules? He had the delegates committed to him and couldn’t have been forced out. And he didn’t want to quit. It was a pressure campaign to make him look out of control, and he’s always been better at negotiating behind closed doors than he is at PR so he couldn’t fight back effectively. Pretty much a chicken race to see who backs down first.

            From the timing of everything going on I suspect that with the combination of the media campaign, backstabbing in the party, him being sick x2 and tired, and finally a Republican convention and VP pick being newsworthily weird (and probably also with some commitments from others to back Kamala if he stepped down) I bet he thought there wouldn’t be any better opportunity to do it.

            (I was expecting the switch to end in chaos, somehow for once DNC managed to do something coordinated, DESPITE many donors also wanting to ditch Kamala)

            I certainly hope Kamala will be harsher against Netanyahu and back the ICC rulings