By my math, if he’s 20 now, that would have made him 17 in June 2021 when he donated, which is also too young to vote. He would have had to register as a Republican after that donation, and records show he voted in 2022.
The conservative narrative I’ve seen now is that he was such a committed liberal that he registered Republican to sabotage their primaries from within.
What many of these dumb mainstream outlets leave out is that he donated to Democrats BEFORE he changed his party affiliation to Republican, and then voted Republican. Of course, conservatives will completely ignore that last bit because it suits their narrative, and outlets like NBC only help strengthen it.
Still, doesn’t add up in my book. Supposedly he was a Republican gun enthusiast? Trumps for the 2nd amendment and endorsed by NRA. The fbi may just be trying to prevent a war from happening or something. The fbi definitely doesn’t have the best reputation when it comes to honesty.
That’s because your book doesn’t paint a full picture of the right and all the factions within. You probably think every right-winger is either a MAGA supporter or a generic NeverTrumper. There are right-wing groups more radical than MAGA, who are very anti-Semitic and believe that Trump and his followers are too moderate. These are actual Neo-Nazi groups, who hate Jews, and want a race war. They’re much more ideological, and they don’t really care about the cult surrounding Trump, they just want to work towards an ethnostate. Many of them even believe that MAGA is a hindrance to further radicalization of the right and white nationalist politics, and supported DeSantis over Trump. I wouldn’t be surprised if the shooter is a groyper. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers
We’ve talked about this on hexbear before, how Neo-Nazis actually support Biden because he gives so much support to the Nazis who run Ukraine. Some Neo-Nazis at least think that Trump is too “Jewish,” has a Jewish son-in-law, etc. Trump has been quite vocal about ending support to Ukraine if he wins the election.
If he’s more extreme than the MAGA crowd then how would that explain his democrat past? That’s such a radical change in political ideology over such a short time.
If he’s more extreme than the MAGA crowd then how would that explain his democrat past? That’s such a radical change in political ideology over such a short time.
half the people here were generic centrist libs in 2016 and turbomaoist anarcho-tankies with dolphin characteristics in 2017
My guy have you never been 17? You are like an empty bucket waiting to be loaded with ideas. He was in highschool at 17, graduated, no indications he went to college, and does what for the next 3 years? Works a deadbeat job and possibly hangs out online a lot?
According to public records, he registered as a Republican in 2021, and voted as Republican in 2022, before Project 2025 was even leaked to the public. I don’t know why a chud would be terrified of Project 2025 unless he was undergoing a political change of heart again, or was a closeted queer person who realized what it would mean for him. It doesn’t seem very likely to me.
“Ideology” is not a fixed thing, specially in unstable times and with the internet around. This is a confused person experiencing material decline with access to guns and internet forums, and that’s probably as deep as it goes. It only gets confusing if you think it is supposed to make sense on it’s own (ie. the whole analysis begins and ends with the parties and this one individual, nothing else). This is why marxists talk so much about “material conditions”, which is what makes nebulous political phenomena make sense
1999 me and 2002 me were sooooo incredibly different
honestly makes me wonder about people who didn’t change a bunch from late teens to early 20s. like, that’s the time of your life you’re supposed to be changing rapidly and becoming a totally different person as you separate from your family and become an adult – was your childhood just that awesome and leftist or were you sheltered or what
A republican? But donates to Democrats?
By my math, if he’s 20 now, that would have made him 17 in June 2021 when he donated, which is also too young to vote. He would have had to register as a Republican after that donation, and records show he voted in 2022.
what if he was the famed radical centrist i keep hearing about
Might be. A liberal adventurist scared of Project 2025.
emphasis on radical?
The brainworms in this country for this to even remotely be a serious possibility
2022? So he’s never voted in a presidential election? Something seems fishy about this whole thing now
If he was 20 as of July 13, 2024, then he would have been 16 on July 13, 2020, and in no way eligible to vote in the 2020 election
the motivations of 20-year-olds can be mysterious even to the 20-year-olds
Idk, we will probably learn more soon; it’s rare for a 20-y-o American to have no digital trail, so there’s more information out there.
Maybe he wanted to impress Jodie Foster!
my money’s on him being a terminally online kid from 4chan who is obsessed with pedophiles and keeps seeing the epstein stuff
I think it’s more likely he was groomed by deep state actors to do this.
He has a Discord, if was probably a dare
The conservative narrative I’ve seen now is that he was such a committed liberal that he registered Republican to sabotage their primaries from within.
My eyes rolled so far back into my head that they came around to the front again
What many of these dumb mainstream outlets leave out is that he donated to Democrats BEFORE he changed his party affiliation to Republican, and then voted Republican. Of course, conservatives will completely ignore that last bit because it suits their narrative, and outlets like NBC only help strengthen it.
Still, doesn’t add up in my book. Supposedly he was a Republican gun enthusiast? Trumps for the 2nd amendment and endorsed by NRA. The fbi may just be trying to prevent a war from happening or something. The fbi definitely doesn’t have the best reputation when it comes to honesty.
That’s because your book doesn’t paint a full picture of the right and all the factions within. You probably think every right-winger is either a MAGA supporter or a generic NeverTrumper. There are right-wing groups more radical than MAGA, who are very anti-Semitic and believe that Trump and his followers are too moderate. These are actual Neo-Nazi groups, who hate Jews, and want a race war. They’re much more ideological, and they don’t really care about the cult surrounding Trump, they just want to work towards an ethnostate. Many of them even believe that MAGA is a hindrance to further radicalization of the right and white nationalist politics, and supported DeSantis over Trump. I wouldn’t be surprised if the shooter is a groyper. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers
We’ve talked about this on hexbear before, how Neo-Nazis actually support Biden because he gives so much support to the Nazis who run Ukraine. Some Neo-Nazis at least think that Trump is too “Jewish,” has a Jewish son-in-law, etc. Trump has been quite vocal about ending support to Ukraine if he wins the election.
If he’s more extreme than the MAGA crowd then how would that explain his democrat past? That’s such a radical change in political ideology over such a short time.
He was probably terrified of project 2025.
half the people here were generic centrist libs in 2016 and turbomaoist anarcho-tankies with dolphin characteristics in 2017
In 2017 I was a russiagate crank
Lmao dweeb
I’ve never been wrong though, so don’t look into my past
Kids can have dramatic, drastic changes in politics in quite short periods
My guy have you never been 17? You are like an empty bucket waiting to be loaded with ideas. He was in highschool at 17, graduated, no indications he went to college, and does what for the next 3 years? Works a deadbeat job and possibly hangs out online a lot?
According to public records, he registered as a Republican in 2021, and voted as Republican in 2022, before Project 2025 was even leaked to the public. I don’t know why a chud would be terrified of Project 2025 unless he was undergoing a political change of heart again, or was a closeted queer person who realized what it would mean for him. It doesn’t seem very likely to me.
“Ideology” is not a fixed thing, specially in unstable times and with the internet around. This is a confused person experiencing material decline with access to guns and internet forums, and that’s probably as deep as it goes. It only gets confusing if you think it is supposed to make sense on it’s own (ie. the whole analysis begins and ends with the parties and this one individual, nothing else). This is why marxists talk so much about “material conditions”, which is what makes nebulous political phenomena make sense
Most of the people here on hexbear would like a word with you
I was 17 in 1999 and 20 in 2002
1999 me and 2002 me were sooooo incredibly different
honestly makes me wonder about people who didn’t change a bunch from late teens to early 20s. like, that’s the time of your life you’re supposed to be changing rapidly and becoming a totally different person as you separate from your family and become an adult – was your childhood just that awesome and leftist or were you sheltered or what
i know I’m one of them 🫠Democrats are also right wing
yeah, right here with you, I’m thinking either Groyper or Boogaloo
*Citation needed.
Donated on inauguration day so he 100% lost a bet and had to donate.