…Haley might be able to consolidate 30 or 35 percent of the party, but the path to actually winning would be closed. Which could make her ascent at DeSantis’s expense another study in the political futility of anti-Trump conservatism, its inability to wrestle successfully with the populism that might make Trump the nominee and the president again.
Haley’s campaign is already over. Trump is garaunteed to lose. Combine the 2 of them together and there is a 0% chance of winner.
If somehow Trump became the nominee it will be a Democrat victory. If it’s someone else as nominee, the general public may vote for them, but it will be a lose for both Haley and Trump.
Trump is the new swamp and Haley is the establishment candiate to protect the corporation sales and help stock holders. Vivek is fake, he is a clown that will contradict himself and lie for attention and popularity.
I have an extremely hard time believing her campaign is already over, especially when she just got the backing of the Koch brothers.
Plus, I’m not sure why if Trump is the nominee, then Biden is definitely going to win. And I’m even less sure why if Haley is the nominee, then Biden still wins. Haley and Biden are going to be competing for the same audience, and Haley has the advantage given the extremely undeserved Republican brand for fiscal responsibility.
I think Haley has a shot going against Biden.
According to the polls, Trump has a good chance of beating Biden. I think what many people don’t understand, myself included, is every time the Democrats attack Trump, he goes up in the polls.
All the lawsuits and criminal charges have done nothing except increase his support.
Trump is polling really well. I am not sure why you think that guarantees he would lose.
Living in a very blue state with closed primaries, I’m considering registering as a Republican for the sole purpose of voting for Haley. It might not doing anything at all, but it wouldn’t cost me anything to say that, between Trump and Halley, I’d pick the latter.
It also helps that the Koch brothers endorsed her. That should give her some financial muscle even if it somewhat goes against the the populism that makes Trump so appealing.
Of the current batch. I like her the most.
She is one of the few republicans willing to negotiate on abortion. The republicans need to learn, the majority of people want abortion and it’s a single issue for many voters.
I don’t know all her stances but abortion is a big one for me.
No she can’t.
You guys are all in on Trump, and none of the things he’s done have sufficiently demotivated the majority of your fellow conservatives from continuing to choose him as your number one guy. The guy that represents you best, according to a majority of republicans.
You cannot unfuck this pig, I am sorry.
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I think the appeal of Trump is that he can win the presidency because he did it once before, but a lot of the Republican party has soured on him. I’m not a Biden fanboy by any stretch of the imagination, but I don’t consider him a traitor to the country or a wannabe dictator like many Republicans think of Trump. I see Democrats fed up with Biden opt to support literally anyone other than Trump. He doesn’t have his 2016 appeal anymore.
If he’s the nominee, I don’t think he’ll be able to pull a win as easily as he did in 2016. And there’s no chance he’ll win the popular vote. Of course, he just has to win the electoral votes…but that’s a separate issue from Trump altogether. The same electoral machinations that are being put in place for a potential Trump nomination could just as easily transition into supporting Haley, especially once she’s past the general and can more clearly define herself against Biden.
Also, I am not a conservative. I feel like this is a common misconception. I am opposed to conservativism, but I do want to understand it.