• Dojan@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Like, I don’t know enough about this BS to argue, so I’m just going to believe what you’re saying, but what’s the point?

    NASA put people on the moon 54 years ago. Musk has said he’d do it several times now, but he’s not there yet.

    He’s also said that he’ll make space travel super cheap, yet his launches cost more than the Russian Soyuz ones used to.

    They’ve gotten nowhere near the moon, and Russia does launches cheaper with their WWII tech than Musk does with his cutting edge stuff. So to me it just looks like they’re burning money for funsies.

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      No it’s not…not at all…

      https://marspedia.org/Financial_effort_estimation

      Falcon is very successful. On top of that it allows the US and EU to stop providing money to RU for it’s war crimes

      Space travel is needed, right now we’re just on big rock away from being a short timeline in the history of the world.

      One reason SpaceX is so successful is because of the red tape that’s been removed that NASA had to deal with, getting to the moon isn’t the end goal, it’s just a platform to use as a layover for other travel.

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        Yeah musk has little to do with SpaceX success besides just being the money man.

        I fully support SpaceX and want them to succeed. I just want musk to be forcibly ejected and the company to be run and managed by more competent and ethical people because it’s obvious from his efforts at Twitter that he has no business running a company, much less one that has real and constant possibilities of bad management meaning the loss of human life.

        I feel the same way about Tesla, but Tesla to me is no longer about moving the human race forward. There are better competitors to Tesla, and now that EVs are mainstream, the trash build quality of those vehicles should mean the company should die or be absorbed.

        But also I just watched AI ethics die in 48 hours so that rich people could make more money, so fuck me I guess.

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        7 months ago

        Nothing we’re doing is going to prevent “one big rock” from changing life on earth. And there’s a solutely no possibility of moving humanity anywhere else. Science fiction isn’t a reason to support nonsense.

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          Wow…you would have been that guy in a cave that said this is fine, no need to go outside.

          You have to start somewhere

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            7 months ago

            This is a foolish response. We aren’t going to live anywhere but this planet, and only a moron thinks humanity is leaving this planet. Truly stupid shit, spoon fed to the incredulous by a billionaire dipshit and a century of science FICTION stories.

            Back to the Zubrin books for you.

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        Space travel and colonization of other planets are wildly different problems to solve. We’re nowhere near colonization levels of anything outside the most habitable areas of the earth.

        We can’t even create a self-sustaining habitat on Antarctica, and that’s many times easier than Mars, the moon, or whatever other planet in our reach we’re shooting for.

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          We most definitely can create a self sustainable habitat in Antarctica, there is no real value of doing so though. That’s why we haven’t. And with the attitude you have we might as well not touch space anymore. You have to start somewhere, it just sounds like you hate a musk company doing it.

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            Man, there’s a lot of projection here from you.

            I didn’t mention Musk once. Not even a little. That’s all you trying to simp to the jackass.

            There’s plenty of reasons not to try and colonize Mars right now. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t advance the technology ahead.

            But thinking that colonizing Mars is even remotely doable with the technology we have access to today, or in the future we can see, is being completely detached from reality.