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      “not perfect” is what I’d call the best democrats personally. On a good day. Joe Biden is enabling genocide, building Trump’s wall, and letting republicans attempt to legislate people like me out of existence -plus he’s been shitting the bed on covid-19 since day one. I do NOT think he falls into that category being as he’s a self-proclaimed centrist and capitalist and I think he deserves FAR greater scrutiny considering he stole the democratic nomination in 2020 from the massively-more-popular-among-constituents Sanders and moved the goalposts for the party further right, and maybe even the whole country

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        what historical president would have instead of him during this time? It has to have been an existing president. Not an ideal figure in your head or someone who has never had the job so it can’t be proven how bad they would actually have been.

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          I’m sorry but this is just plain word salad, not sure what you’re trying to say.

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            Im saying you paint a good picture of biden but what former president would you rather have lived under the last years?

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              If your point is that all of our options are pro imperial warmongers then I agree. If you can’t accept criticism of the person your voting for then you’re just like the maga people

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                Yeah that’s exactly all I’m saying. “The lesser of two evils” just means you end up with evil in the driver’s seat either way. I really, really hope we see a decent third-party option this year…

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                Im saying that comparing to some fictional idealized thing is great but I personally judge them by their peers and this sub little chat started comparing biden to putin. A guy below has a thing about vacating society but I don’t see that as an option. So im pretty happy with the best history has given us anyway because i have had worse. Don’t get me wrong my go to comparison for our choices is that our political choice is to take it with or without lube.

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              I’m a anarchist, hero worship is gross asf to me. I’m not gonna pretend giving one person a inane amount of power would ever be a ideal situation. I think at this point I’d rather live in a cave thousands of miles underground filled with traps, poisionous gas and Some Kind Of Horrid Creature than any part of modern day america tbqh

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                  Oh I don’t hate modernity, I was just yearning for death’s sweet embrace for a minute there tbh. Comes and goes.

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                I can see that. This is what I mean when I tell people republicans used to be different before reagan. they had actual moderates that even used the term progressive in their agendas. Thing is with ike is much of his accomplishments was just that he did not try to tear down what came before but supported it. What do you feel he did that makes him your guy?