Improving teacher quality in America’s schools will take much time and hard work. You would have to start from the ground up, training new teachers from scratch based on partially lost knowledge. You would have to raise college admission standards and require four years of academic work in the teacher’s core subject.

Education degrees and teacher licensing, by the way, should be done away with. They are expensive and ineffective.

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    this is another reason why amerikkka needs to take some of the 733 billion dollars out of the military and fund the fucking schools

    but given this is c/conservative you probably took something about ‘wokeism’ or something out of this. death to America

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      A heads up, we’re going to go after bad faith comments soon-ish.

      Shit like that will catch a ban.

      If you have something to say, you can say it without the nonsense.

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    I don’t think the problem can be summed up so easily. I believe it’s a symptom of a systemic issue: part of which has been the erosion of the idea of the common good. It should be understood, as it was in the distant past, that investing in youth benefits all of us. I don’t mean we ought to throw more money at public schools. That has been tried but doesn’t help. If however the upbringing and education of our youth was more of a concern for society at large, we likely wouldn’t be having this conversation.

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      I believe it’s a symptom of a systemic issue: part of which has been the erosion of the idea of the common good.

      I can get behind this.

      One of my greatest criticisms of economics as a discipline is its axiomatic belief that the pursuit of self-interest necessarily makes everyone better off. The common good doesn’t need to be looked out for because it will naturally follow if people just do their thing.

      But rich people putting their kids on private schools doesn’t help society. Abandoning public schools to property taxes and the value of a home, also doesn’t help society, and especially doesn’t help kids.

      Did you know that, unlike every other school district in America, there is one that gets $8 million of federal money per year simply for being where it is? One school district. Coincidentally, it’s located in an area that has some of the most educated people in the world and doesn’t need anywhere near that level of support. (There are your hints…)

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      That is the primary reason why private schools excel, they don’t have to waste time dragging a kid to school.

      Leaving kids behind isn’t a bragging point.

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              at the expense of everyone else.

              Sometimes this is the case in bad districts, but in good ones this is not the case. A good district will get a child that is falling behind the help they need, and put them in a separate class to avoid making the education of others worse.

              Education goes a long way towards reducing poverty, so when a child is left behind it increases their risk of poverty, and therefore the crime rate and draw on public resources like emergency services, and welfare programs. The education system failing a student is ultimately a bigger expense.

              divert funds to educate them when they are ready later in life

              Unfortunately that’s not how life works. You can’t just learn to read after you hit your 30s.

              Children need to grow up, and a part of that is being able to handle the world around them using their education.

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                  I’m talking about the kids that don’t want to be there.

                  I am aware.

                  Many people learned to read as an adult

                  Basically all of which were worse off for it.

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            Any given school has limited resources. Limited number of classrooms, limited teachers, limited hours in a school day, etc. Sure these limits can change over time, but they will never not be limited.

            It often is mutually exclusive because of these limits.

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              Any given school has limited resources.

              It really isn’t that demanding.

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      That is the primary reason why private schools excel

      That’s a good point.

      The article says that teachers teach subjects they’re not familiar with and decries education degrees. Are private schools hiring subject matter experts or people with education degrees and licenses? I suspect it’s the latter, which might suggest that those degrees aren’t useless at all.

      If that’s true, then maybe you’re more right than the article.

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    So Conservatives want to Protect the Children by defaming the exact people who shape them? Teachers see your kids more then you do yet you want to defame them and defund them and give that money to the Police. And what do Police do? Arrest your damn kids.