I am so so divided on if I should vote for biden or not. I wanna vote third party to at least do something or should I just stay home and protest and advocate where I can? Thoughts?

  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    I’m not shutting myself off to politics. I’m voting down ticket! I’m involved in- other ways I’d rather not discuss. I’m just not voting for Biden. That’s a completely different supposition than just not voting at all, which is what the 2025 project would assume. Trump only had success because people who refused to vote for Hillary refused to vote down ticket and just stayed home. I’m not doing that.

    If Trump doesn’t have a cooperative legislature or state governments then he can’t accomplish shit. He’ll be an impotent cry baby that screams about how this is the most unfair etc etc. Also, like I said, if Trump is in power I am almost certain that partisanship would force Democrats to grow a spine and progressive Dems would be able to recruit a lot of party members because Orange Man Bad.

    I. Am. Voting. I’m just not voting for Biden.

    Now, if winning the presidency alone is enough for a fascist takeover then that shit is inevitable, unless you think there will never be another Republican president ever again. And if that’s enough, then it’s better for it to be a dumbass like Trump than a smart fascist.

    • Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Reading comprehension

      when discussing the zeitgeist of politics leading up to a historic even and listing some of them, saying many people were shutting themselves off to politics, not voting for the lesser evil, etc. It does not mean everyone, nor the person I am addressing, is doing all of those things. It means that is a quick example of the various types of things that were common at the time. You fall into the second one because you are specifically not doing that with the presidency.

      You did not read the 2025 Project plan. It is designed to specifically nullify the effects of most local voting powers by using a lot of legally questionable “powers” of the executive office. Meaning the only thing stopping it from being allowed is the USSC, you know, the one they stacked specifically for this, when people took your stance with Hillary. Don’t comment on something you haven’t read.

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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        8 months ago

        when discussing the zeitgeist of politics leading up to a historic even and listing some of them, saying many people were shutting themselves off to politics, not voting for the lesser evil, etc. It does not mean everyone, nor the person I am addressing, is doing all of those things. It means that is a quick example of the various types of things that were common at the time.

        … so you’re just smearing everything together in a big blob of “them” so you can tear down a strawman.

        Am I arguing with ChatGPT? What the fuck is this?

        You did not read the 2025 Project plan. It is designed to specifically nullify the effects of most local voting powers by using a lot of legally questionable “powers” of the executive office. Meaning the only thing stopping it from being allowed is the USSC, you know, the one they stacked specifically for this, when people took your stance with Hillary. Don’t comment on something you haven’t read.

        I’m not going to read a 920 page document for an internet argument lol

        • Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          No, I named 2 common ideas I saw espoused reading first hand accounts leading up to said historical events, one of which is exactly what you did, the other is also a common talking point for the same general crowd. It’s not my fault you can’t parse a tiny amount of information. How is pointing out that what you are doing, which I am arguing is bad if you don’t want a more authoritarian government, has historically been a common thought process leading up to authoritarian control, a strawman? It is literally a historical example of what happens in the type of situation being discussed.

          Don’t read the document for an internet argument, read it because it is an important piece of information to understand if you want to participate with society in an informed manner. Simply don’t comment on the scenario when you don’t even know what it is.