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As of 3 November, according to Ministry of Health data, 2326 women and 3760 children have been killed in the Gaza strip, representing 67% of all casualties, while thousands more have been injured. This means that 420 children are killed or injured every day, some of them only a few months old.
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and some people still claim it’s not a genocide
I was about to make a meme until I read it further.
That sucks man, I don’t have anything else to say.
Children are the future, thats why we have to kill as many as we can.
Netanyahu, probably
A Terrible thing… It sayings “Ministry of Health data” which Ministry of Health?
The Gaza ministry of health has met the highest standards of NGO and UN scrutiny. They even published proof of every single confirmed dead civilian a week ago when the death toll was at 8,000. There were 12 pages of names before the age of 1.
Usually the Gazan ministry of health, which is run by Hamas because they’re the local government in Gaza. But, their numbers are highly accurate, as said by UNICEF.
It’s run by hamas. Doesn’t mean there aren’t a lot of people dying for real. But the numbers are right out of the mouth of a terrorist group.
It’s interesting that you’ll take Israel’s word despite proof of regularly fabricating lies. But the health ministry under bombardment that is verified by the UN and multiple humanitarian NGOs is “the mouth of a terrorist group”.
Perhaps you’d do well to consider whether your cowardly attitude to human suffering is making you an insufferable person.
I wouldn’t take Israel’s word for granted either…
One snippet out of a lengthy article.
Many experts consider figures provided by the ministry reliable, given its access, sources and accuracy in past statements.
“Everyone uses the figures from the Gaza Health Ministry because those are generally proven to be reliable,” said Omar Shakir, Israel and Palestine director at Human Rights Watch. “In the times in which we have done our own verification of numbers for particular strikes, I’m not aware of any time which there’s been some major discrepancy.”
Shakir said Human Rights Watch would not use figures provided by parties with “a propensity to misrepresent information.”
Why news outlets and the U.N. rely on Gaza’s Health Ministry for death tolls
And another:
Throughout four wars and numerous bloody skirmishes between Israel and Hamas, U.N. agencies have cited the Health Ministry’s death tolls in regular reports. The International Committee of the Red Cross and Palestinian Red Crescent also use the numbers.
In the aftermath of war, the U.N. humanitarian office has published final death tolls based on its own research into medical records.
In all cases the U.N.’s counts have largely been consistent with the Gaza Health Ministry’s, with small discrepancies.
— 2008 war: The ministry reported 1,440 Palestinians killed; the U.N. reported 1,385.
— 2014 war: The ministry reported 2,310 Palestinians killed; the U.N. reported 2,251.
— 2021 war: The ministry reported 260 Palestinians killed; the U.N. reported 256.
What is Gaza’s Ministry of Health and how does it calculate the war’s death toll?
Perhaps not surprisingly, it is also this number - six million - that Holocaust deniers aim at when trying to discredit the essential nature of the Holocaust. Source
I am so very tempted to wish you ill. So so very. But I’ll use my rage to donate instead. I hope you meet your fate though. Sooner than later.
I’m really glad that, for the most part, people around here are educated enough to see the complete lack of value of comments like these.
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why are these articles alway forget to mention that the gazah ministry of health is operated by the hamas…
I’m not saying that all these numbers are from a fairytale but I also would not take them for granted…
Because their numbers are accurate. This article came out recently:
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/07/world/gaza-death-toll-accuracy-unicef-intl-hnk/index.html
We can probably take UNICEF’s word for it.
At least they make them more plausible, thx for sharing!
What number of children deaths is acceptable for you?
“I’m not saying that all these numbers are from a fairytale”
If that’s true, then what’s your number? How many children are you okay with dying?
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Their top line numbers tend to be accurate. If you look at the 2014 Gaza War data, the Gaza health ministry said 2,310 killed (70% civilians), the UN said 2,251 (65% civilians) and Israel said 2,125 killed (36% civilian, 20% uncategorized males between 16 and 50, and 44% combatants).
Obviously, everyone labels “civilians” and “combatants” in their own way and for their own purposes. But the health ministry hasn’t historically just pulled numbers out of their ass.
Because they’re not sleepwalking into genocide denial like you and Joe Biden
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Because it isn’t operated by hamas
you sure about that?
The Gaza Health Ministry is a Hamas-run government agency in the Gaza Strip of the Palestinian territories. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Health_Ministry
So 0 children have died in Gaza? Got it! Is that what you’re saying? Because that’s the implication of “Don’t trust the Numbers…”
Did you check the sources? For fuck sake just do some critical thinking before replying
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Yeah, keep on insulting me, I’m done 🤷♂️
Removed. Keep it civil. You can disagree without ad hominem attacks.
Hamas doesn’t lie about everything like israel does.
I don’t particularly like Hamas, in fact I strongly dislike them, but you’re right. They simply have no need to lie about everything as the Israelis have a knack for actually doing the terrible things they’d otherwise have to fabricate.
Would they lie if the Israelis weren’t a bunch of genocidal shit heels? Probably not, because Hamas wouldn’t exist if not for the actions of the Israelis.
It’s amusing because Holocaust deniers use that exact same argument.
which one? That we maybe should look into multiple independent sources, instead only in one provided by the Hamas, which I also did not call false? And to answer to your shitty accusation. there are multiple sources for the Holocaust so it’s pretty easy to verify that it has happend and was an atrocity.
I don’t think that’s what people mean when they say blaze it.
Doesn’t matter. The western world will keep relativising the deaths of these children. They will keep looking for excuses as to why it’s okay to murder this kids. It’s a “necessary evil”. If you’re from a non western country, maybe you should try and think about how this could be you. And one half of the world would simply excuse the murder of your family.
The United States is the biggest diplomatic loser in this war.
Gave Israel eveything it wanted but Israel ignores all it’s behind the scenes requests for a ceasefire.
It’s reputation in the Middle East is so trashed that close Arab allies can’t even be seen in public with their envoys.
Western diplomats have said that they have lost the global south. No one believes their claims about human rights and a rules based international order.
A complete destruction of United States influence in the middle east and heavy damage in developing countries.
Seriously. The Israeli military is murdering so many civilians the medical community has to invent a new acronym
WOUNDED CHILD NO SURVIVING FAMILY.
Netanyahu is not making Israel safer. He’s damaging it for decades to come.
Vs. 31 on the other side, once. And yet some political echelon there still thinks this fact gives them the moral high ground.
Taking abortion to the next level
420 blaze it
Finally a solution for global warming
This is not nice.
