What’s inaccurate about claiming the moon is made of cheese? It’s an absurd lie invented to enable right-wing “both siding”.
The political spectrum dates back to the French Revolution, with the powerful entrenched nobility literally sitting on the right and the representatives of the people on the left. Today the spectrum is a complex web of ideologies with vertical power on the right and horizontal power on the left.
Direct democracy is one example leftism (as are socialism, anarchy, communism as defined by Marx, etc). Feudalism is an example of rightism (as is dictatorship, oligarchy, fascism, etc).
It is a meaningless vertice. Imagine adding abortion, racism, women’s rights, religion, trans-rights or any other tool the right uses to fragment us to the vertical axis.
Authoritarian is right-wing, power in the hands of the few.
If anyone in this thread really wants to discuss it why not start a new topic? I’m sure you’d get lots of responses.
“vertice” isn’t a word-- perhaps you meant “vertex”? and what, precisely, do you mean by calling “it” “worthless”?
Authoritarian is right-wing, power in the hands of the few.
as explained (and illustrated) In previous comments, authoritarianism is not exclusive to right-wing ideologies; Soviet-style communism was a left-wing ideology and infamously authoritarian.
Are you trying to argue in good faith? Vertices are the plural of vertex.
Authoritarianism is all there is to right wing ideology. Power is in the hands of the few. Adding a vertical axis for different flavors of right/left wing are a meme, and not a very good one at that. If an “enlightened” dictator implemented full communism through sheer military force or charismatic sorcery, it would still be right wing.
says the person claiming that authoritarianism can old exist on the right, lmao
Vertices are the plural of vertex.
yeah, but you said “vertice” not “vertices”, and the political compass only has one vertex at the intersection of the two axes, ahem, so what you said still doesn’t make sense.
Authoritarianism is all there is to right wing ideology.
wrong. right-wing ideologies are varied and complex and can vary from authoritarian to libertarian in nature. your ignorance on this subject doesn’t make your statement correct simply because you lack knowledge of anything else.
If an “enlightened” dictator implemented full communism through sheer military force or charismatic sorcery, it would still be right wing.
if ignorant statements and “magical” reasoning like this are the best you have, then it’s especially hilarious that you accused me of arguing in bad faith…
Yes it does. The political compass is nonsense in it’s entirety.
It attempts to separate power and wealth, which are the same thing. It attempts to paint leftism an economic policy rather than a complete ideology so that right-wing governments like Soviet Russia, North Korea, Cuba, or the PRC can be scapegoated as “leftist”.
I spelled out the reality of the political spectrum: vertical (top-down) authority vs horizontal (shared) authority. Wealth equals authority and authority equals wealth. The political compass is a lie cut from whole cloth to make people more accepting of different kinds of authoritarian lever-pulling while distrusting actual leftist policy by offloading the crimes and traits of the right onto the left.
what’s inaccurate here?
What’s inaccurate about claiming the moon is made of cheese? It’s an absurd lie invented to enable right-wing “both siding”.
The political spectrum dates back to the French Revolution, with the powerful entrenched nobility literally sitting on the right and the representatives of the people on the left. Today the spectrum is a complex web of ideologies with vertical power on the right and horizontal power on the left.
Direct democracy is one example leftism (as are socialism, anarchy, communism as defined by Marx, etc). Feudalism is an example of rightism (as is dictatorship, oligarchy, fascism, etc).
that doesn’t answer my question
It is a meaningless vertice. Imagine adding abortion, racism, women’s rights, religion, trans-rights or any other tool the right uses to fragment us to the vertical axis.
Authoritarian is right-wing, power in the hands of the few.
If anyone in this thread really wants to discuss it why not start a new topic? I’m sure you’d get lots of responses.
“vertice” isn’t a word-- perhaps you meant “vertex”? and what, precisely, do you mean by calling “it” “worthless”?
as explained (and illustrated) In previous comments, authoritarianism is not exclusive to right-wing ideologies; Soviet-style communism was a left-wing ideology and infamously authoritarian.
Are you trying to argue in good faith? Vertices are the plural of vertex.
Authoritarianism is all there is to right wing ideology. Power is in the hands of the few. Adding a vertical axis for different flavors of right/left wing are a meme, and not a very good one at that. If an “enlightened” dictator implemented full communism through sheer military force or charismatic sorcery, it would still be right wing.
says the person claiming that authoritarianism can old exist on the right, lmao
yeah, but you said “vertice” not “vertices”, and the political compass only has one vertex at the intersection of the two axes, ahem, so what you said still doesn’t make sense.
wrong. right-wing ideologies are varied and complex and can vary from authoritarian to libertarian in nature. your ignorance on this subject doesn’t make your statement correct simply because you lack knowledge of anything else.
if ignorant statements and “magical” reasoning like this are the best you have, then it’s especially hilarious that you accused me of arguing in bad faith…
Yes it does. The political compass is nonsense in it’s entirety.
It attempts to separate power and wealth, which are the same thing. It attempts to paint leftism an economic policy rather than a complete ideology so that right-wing governments like Soviet Russia, North Korea, Cuba, or the PRC can be scapegoated as “leftist”.
I spelled out the reality of the political spectrum: vertical (top-down) authority vs horizontal (shared) authority. Wealth equals authority and authority equals wealth. The political compass is a lie cut from whole cloth to make people more accepting of different kinds of authoritarian lever-pulling while distrusting actual leftist policy by offloading the crimes and traits of the right onto the left.
Any other questions?