• Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    Yeah, I heard just the other day about Israeli physicians injecting Beta Israel (i.e. Ethiopian) Jews with medroxyprogesterone acetate, a long-term contraceptive, without their informed consent. It reminds me of what the Danish government did in Greenland in the '60s and '70s, giving thousands of Inuit IUDs without their consent.

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        8 months ago

        Or what Norway did to the Romani and LGBT people and the mentally disabled and yadda yadda yadda if we’re listing groups that Euro-American governments have forcefully sterilized we’ll be here all day. I just wanted to highlight Greenland’s spiral case in particular because it’s only now getting an official investigation, Denmark is one of those countries that progressive Seppos like to hark on about how great it is, and IUDs like MPA do not permanently remove the ability to conceive a child — which means that deniers would only be lying by omission when they say “[group members] were never forcefully sterilized”.

        • In Finland this is still done to disabled people without their real consent. Sure it is a pill and not some injection, but people who have to live in institutions or care homes are still routinely given contraceptives without their consent.

            • This is something I have heard anecdotally from healthcare workers in my life who have told me that contraceptives are routinely given to disabled women with for example the logic that they cannot take care of their menstrual hygiene themselves. Which for some is probably true, but in these privatized care homes this tends to not be negotiated on an individual level. So while on paper the sterilizations have ended, these people are often still not choosing this themselves. Disabled women still have to justify having children of their own. This is what I mean with “real consent”.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      8 months ago

      That’s what broke me out of the idea that there was anything good or justifiable about Israel. If Israelis were willing to do eugenics to Jewish people then all the bullshit about it being a Jewish state and a safe place for Jewish people was lies. I literally thought “This is Nazi shit” and that shattered the spell.