Up until you want to do anything Apple doesn’t approve of. Like, say, sideload apps that aren’t in the app store. Or install an alternate OS. Or get root access to your own damn device. Or swap out parts yourself. Or anything beyond being a boring-ass social media consumer.
or keep using your device after you dropped it. or keep using the same device long enough for the battery to wear out. or use the same charger on your phone as you would use on any other device.
it’s frickin ludicrous how apple users whose devices break prematurely just go and buy another device from apple, as opposed to doing the sane thing and buying from a different company. like after my lenovo laptop wiped its own bios on a forced “upgrade” i’m sure as fuck not buying lenovo, but if an apple device encountered the same error 9 out of 10 users would just go and wire daddy tim apple another $1500 for a replacement. like wtf, why would they not enforce failures if that’s how their users behave
i highly doubt they were anywhere near as easy as just taking off the back of the phone, removing the battery, and plopping a new one in. y’know, like how it worked on everything before apple decided to change it and most manufacturers followed, because lithium batteries are really good for limiting the lifespan of a device. but you can still get smartphones that have that old model (like the samsung xcover 6 or the fairphone 4), just not from apple.
apple could still do that when they’re forced to include user-replaceable batteries. it’s going to be even simpler, the person in the “genius bar” will just open the phone, take the battery out, put the new one in, and hand it back to you. hard to beat a 30 second repair.
i honestly have no clue why you think forcing apple to build their phones in sane and pro-consumer ways would prevent them from giving you this premium service that you already pay a premium for. the only reason they might stop is because they might get mad that they don’t get to screw over everyone who doesn’t sign up for apple care, but that’s on them. no one is asking for apple to not care about its customers, we’re asking for the exact opposite.
Because I can install a custom operating system, in which I will have root, at any time and with zero resistance. I don’t, because I don’t really want to take chances with my only means of calling for help in an emergency, but there’s nothing stopping me if I’m feeling brave.
You, on the other hand, have to exploit a security vulnerability in your own phone in order to use it outside the ridiculously strict bounds Apple imposes, and there aren’t even any custom operating systems to install.
Also, I can install a real browser with real ad blocking, and I don’t even need root or a custom operating system to do that.
Android phones are far from perfect, but Apple phones are outright unfit for their purpose.
Sure, in prison too everything just works, plus you have 3 meals a day and a lot of spare time. You just get fucked by some stronger dude any time he wants.
And that’s exactly Apple: it fucks you any time he wants.
Want the new OS on your totally capable 2017 pc? Fuck you
Want to use your warranty but you used an off brand charger onca at your friend’s house? Fuck you
That would be 2000$
fuckin a how god damn stupid are you? this “green bubble” shit is hilarious, you want to suck Tim Cooks cock so fucking bad you are making up pejoratives for people not using an iPhone, how much of a fucking cuck do you have to be?
oh I KNOW you are a massive fucking cuck no question about that one, you have your head so far up your ass you think this makes you cool, when it just makes you a fucking dweeb.
…green bubbles are because apple doesn’t want to move forward with everyone else, they want to have their own walled garden so that people like you say exactly what you just said. their lightning connector is quite literally an outgrowth of usb-c before usb-c was even done, as far as that issue goes its apple trying to go backwards not the rest of the industry. the rest of the industry moved past proprietary charging connectors almost 15 years ago.
Like i dont care if you use an iphone it’s like complaining that you use chrome instead of firefox, its just stupid. So why do you apple people care that I use a samsung?
Ok? It looks pretty cool. I’m really not anti apple like you think I am lol. I’d be more concerned about preordering in general than it being apple but I’m not going to berate you for it or anything.
I mean I probably won’t since it’s like $3500 but like, ok? You act like I’m telling you not to buy it. I have a quest 2 and had a rift in 2016, I am already on board with vr/ar, you don’t need to convince me. If I had the money I’d have had a hololens in like 2016.
I honestly won the last 2 job selections because I was “the linux guy”: my emplyers understood that I can operate a pc better that the average mac or windows user and chose me over other people for that reason.
So what your saying it doesn’t apply to all use cases
Honestly it might not be the best idea to let employers know you’re willing to put in extra hours and hours of work just to get something trivial like audio working because that makes you look like an exploitable mark
Being a linux user doesn’t mean I’ll put in more hours at work, it just means that in the same amount of time I’ll have more stuff done, or that it takes less time to learn new stuff because I already know how some things work.
But hold fast to those values and ride them into the ground because of a decision you made 15 years ago and because you think Steve Jobs was gay
I don’t have any particular idea (good or bad) about the character of SJ, except for the fact that I think he was an excellent salesman. And the characteristic of an excellent salesman is to lure you into a bad deal by convincing you that you’ll end up on the upper side.
I love Apple devices, they work extremely well. I have the whole pack, an iPhone, an iPad, a MacBook Pro and now I wanna get the HomePod.
I am very aware tho, that if I change to an Android, I will automatically lose 90% of the incredible features apple provides inside their ecosystem.
I do not deny your point, Apple things just work. But they have a very big ecosystem where they don’t allow anyone else to be part and that part is quite anti-consumer.
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Up until you want to do anything Apple doesn’t approve of. Like, say, sideload apps that aren’t in the app store. Or install an alternate OS. Or get root access to your own damn device. Or swap out parts yourself. Or anything beyond being a boring-ass social media consumer.
or keep using your device after you dropped it. or keep using the same device long enough for the battery to wear out. or use the same charger on your phone as you would use on any other device.
it’s frickin ludicrous how apple users whose devices break prematurely just go and buy another device from apple, as opposed to doing the sane thing and buying from a different company. like after my lenovo laptop wiped its own bios on a forced “upgrade” i’m sure as fuck not buying lenovo, but if an apple device encountered the same error 9 out of 10 users would just go and wire daddy tim apple another $1500 for a replacement. like wtf, why would they not enforce failures if that’s how their users behave
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It’s not “no cost to me” if you paid for apple care
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i highly doubt they were anywhere near as easy as just taking off the back of the phone, removing the battery, and plopping a new one in. y’know, like how it worked on everything before apple decided to change it and most manufacturers followed, because lithium batteries are really good for limiting the lifespan of a device. but you can still get smartphones that have that old model (like the samsung xcover 6 or the fairphone 4), just not from apple.
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apple could still do that when they’re forced to include user-replaceable batteries. it’s going to be even simpler, the person in the “genius bar” will just open the phone, take the battery out, put the new one in, and hand it back to you. hard to beat a 30 second repair.
i honestly have no clue why you think forcing apple to build their phones in sane and pro-consumer ways would prevent them from giving you this premium service that you already pay a premium for. the only reason they might stop is because they might get mad that they don’t get to screw over everyone who doesn’t sign up for apple care, but that’s on them. no one is asking for apple to not care about its customers, we’re asking for the exact opposite.
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We are all laughing at you, not angry at you.
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Aren’t you the one with green bubbles? I can set them to whatever color I want.
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Forcing you to “jailbreak” your own device is insulting. Why the hell are you not insulted by that?
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Because I can install a custom operating system, in which I will have root, at any time and with zero resistance. I don’t, because I don’t really want to take chances with my only means of calling for help in an emergency, but there’s nothing stopping me if I’m feeling brave.
You, on the other hand, have to exploit a security vulnerability in your own phone in order to use it outside the ridiculously strict bounds Apple imposes, and there aren’t even any custom operating systems to install.
Also, I can install a real browser with real ad blocking, and I don’t even need root or a custom operating system to do that.
Android phones are far from perfect, but Apple phones are outright unfit for their purpose.
Sure, in prison too everything just works, plus you have 3 meals a day and a lot of spare time. You just get fucked by some stronger dude any time he wants.
And that’s exactly Apple: it fucks you any time he wants.
Want the new OS on your totally capable 2017 pc? Fuck you
Want to use your warranty but you used an off brand charger onca at your friend’s house? Fuck you
That would be 2000$
Testimony: I use a 2015 iGPU rig with an i5 6500 and 16gb ddr4.
Runs well, I can do all sorts of things on it.
If some game doesn’t run well and I got cash, I’m taking a bus to SP road and buying a good used GPU.
Cheap, reliable, serviceable. Only 1 of which apple’s products are.
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Apple hardware is rather shoddy, so yeah, an extended warranty probably is warranted.
Or, y’know, buying something that’s not shoddy.
Haha true
However, I’ve had this “apple experience” with xiaomi too
I just unlocked the bootloader and side loaded another OS after a year of no regular nor security updates
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fuckin a how god damn stupid are you? this “green bubble” shit is hilarious, you want to suck Tim Cooks cock so fucking bad you are making up pejoratives for people not using an iPhone, how much of a fucking cuck do you have to be?
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oh I KNOW you are a massive fucking cuck no question about that one, you have your head so far up your ass you think this makes you cool, when it just makes you a fucking dweeb.
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…green bubbles are because apple doesn’t want to move forward with everyone else, they want to have their own walled garden so that people like you say exactly what you just said. their lightning connector is quite literally an outgrowth of usb-c before usb-c was even done, as far as that issue goes its apple trying to go backwards not the rest of the industry. the rest of the industry moved past proprietary charging connectors almost 15 years ago.
Like i dont care if you use an iphone it’s like complaining that you use chrome instead of firefox, its just stupid. So why do you apple people care that I use a samsung?
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whatever you say dude, I’m glad you like your iphone.
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Ok? It looks pretty cool. I’m really not anti apple like you think I am lol. I’d be more concerned about preordering in general than it being apple but I’m not going to berate you for it or anything.
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I mean I probably won’t since it’s like $3500 but like, ok? You act like I’m telling you not to buy it. I have a quest 2 and had a rift in 2016, I am already on board with vr/ar, you don’t need to convince me. If I had the money I’d have had a hololens in like 2016.
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I honestly won the last 2 job selections because I was “the linux guy”: my emplyers understood that I can operate a pc better that the average mac or windows user and chose me over other people for that reason.
So what your saying it doesn’t apply to all use cases
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Being a linux user doesn’t mean I’ll put in more hours at work, it just means that in the same amount of time I’ll have more stuff done, or that it takes less time to learn new stuff because I already know how some things work.
I don’t have any particular idea (good or bad) about the character of SJ, except for the fact that I think he was an excellent salesman. And the characteristic of an excellent salesman is to lure you into a bad deal by convincing you that you’ll end up on the upper side.
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Audio on Linux has worked out of the box for over a decade.
Apple not being anti-consumer is the weirdest opinion I read on lemmy…for now…
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I think apple is more subtle and long term about it. Microsoft just straight up slams it in your face.
Nice try. The dongle debacle alone is a proof Apple is f*%#ing its consumers and the environment for profit
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Under EU law, all tech makers will have to offer the same standardized cords, Apple included
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I love Apple devices, they work extremely well. I have the whole pack, an iPhone, an iPad, a MacBook Pro and now I wanna get the HomePod.
I am very aware tho, that if I change to an Android, I will automatically lose 90% of the incredible features apple provides inside their ecosystem.
I do not deny your point, Apple things just work. But they have a very big ecosystem where they don’t allow anyone else to be part and that part is quite anti-consumer.
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